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Alright but expect an answer only after the weekend...
ok no problem , I just hope we'll be able to run it
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That's weird xD
Also, I hope my 8500GT handles it; my 3GB of RAM should too...
Spider vice, when you get the game, tell me how it runs on your 8500GT. I got the same one, and I want to know if I really should buy a new one.
thx in advance
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lol, i dont have a Pentium D, i have a Pentium 4, a socket 478 P4 to be exact!
Oh lol srry, i was typing so fast, I forgot to see that i wrote Pentium D instead of Pentium 4.
Anyways, that's how it turned out. Backwards! Most people with dual core, core 2 duo and small amount that have Pentium 4(like you), have been bragging with thousands of smiley faces that they're actually running it on medium. But the ppl with quads and high rigs, not so good.
anyways I'm waiting 3 more days for GTA4 on PC, cuz I'm in Macedonia and here they arrive a little late.
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Like I said in my topic 'Rockstar messed up a little?'
I quote myself 'R* either gave the specs random or calculated them wrong!' but many of you guys denied R* making a mistake and told me I had a money issue. Well now get this, people with high end rigs are complaining not even enjoying it on medium, while many people with low end rigs like dual core or orange's pentium D, say it ran nice and smooth.
So everything got backwards?
Now who has the money issue???
(It's good to have dual core...sorry guys I don't mean to rub this in your face )
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I told you, this is another guy's finding. I just didn't see it here, so I thought I should put it here
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NOTE:THIS IS ANOTHER GUY'S FINDING! I JUST DIDN'T SAW IT HERE SO...HERE IT IS!
Here is an interesting README i found on R* website, looks like performance problems might be "intentional"
THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available.
Graphics settings are limited by system resources by default. 256MB video cards force minimum settings by default. If a user bypasses these safety measures using command line arguments and exceeds their system resources, the users gaming experience may be compromised.
Video Mode
Resolution scaling effects water, reflections, shadows, mirrors and the visible viewable distance. The resolution settings relate to the amount of available video memory. At 2560*1600 the game will require 320MB of video memory in addition to all the memory required for content. At 800*600 the game will require 32MB of video memory in addition to the content. Medium resolution settings are recommended for most users as higher settings are only usable if there is available video memory.
Texture Quality
Texture quality affects the visual quality of the content of the game. High setting for textures will require 600MB of video memory at a setting of 21 View Distance in addition to the memory taken by the Video Mode. A medium texture setting is recommended for most users.
Render Quality
Render quality is the texture filter quality used on most things in the world rendering. Most people would know this as anisotropic filtering. Medium settings are recommended for most users and will provide filtering beyond what the console versions can execute.
View Distance
View distance scales the distance in which different objects in the world such as building and cars are seen. Raising this option increases the distance in which high quality objects must be loaded and will increase the memory it requires. Restrictions are established to ensure the game runs optimally for most users. A setting of 22 or more will provide PC users an enhanced experience over the console versions.
Detail Distance
Detail distance scales aspects of the environment that the View Distance setting does not including vegetation, trash and other moveable objects. A setting of 10 would be the equivalent to the performance on a console. This setting has little effect on memory.
Vehicle Density
Vehicle density scales the traffic density of the traffic in the game. It has no effect on the mission vehicles or difficultly of the game, but can have a significant impact on CPU performance
Shadow Density
Shadow Density controls the number of shadows generated for positional lights in exterior environments. These shadows are exclusive to the PC version and can have a major impact on CPU and GPU performance.
Crossfire/SLI
With the latest ATI driver (8-11 series) the game supports crossfire modes (ie. 4870x2)
SLI is currently unsupported. Support will be added through a future game patch as well as an updated Nvidia driver.
NOTE: Background Processes
Certain background processes can have a detrimental effect on system performance when playing GTA IV, especially on systems with minimum required system memory. Users should ensure they disable their Virus scans when running the game to maximize performance.
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The moral of this story is............
'FUCK JACK THOMPSON,GTA IV OF IT'S GREATNESS MAKES PEOPLE CRAZY AND GOOD WRITERS!!!'
currently it made a good writer out of you
(seriously that's some mad skills you got )
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I have browsed many forums, and many times I've seen people with the exact requirement specs(or similiar), complain about not enjoying it at all. While people with minimum specs or low end rigs, completely don't complain and say that their running it perfectly? :S
Is this confirming that R* got the specs wrong or is this just a bad port job?
Please, share your thoughts about this here.
Discussion is open
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I'm looking to buy the game now, but I want to know how many of you play it smooth and nice on dual core. I want to know if I need to buy a new graphics card(my current is nvidia geforce 8500GT,(I think we can all agree that's a crappy graphics card I got). So if anyone played it on dual core, can you please tell me how you handled the game.
Thanks in advance
(Also on this topic you can share info on how to run it on dual core smoothly... I mean if you feel like it )
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If Russian hackers hacked the Pentagon...they can surely hack this game in 1 day.I'm asking again...What does R* benefit from this?
I hate to dig up an oldie, but....
ZING!
What you mean by that?
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If Russian hackers hacked the Pentagon...they can surely hack this game in 1 day.I'm asking again...What does R* benefit from this?
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I am so looking forward to the game.
Yes, I haven't even played it, just a a few minutes, but that's it. I've only played GTA IV for approx 15mins in total from the 2 days at my friends place. I would've got it a PS3/360 for my birthday, but I didn't. And plus, the day the game came was the day I had my French Orals (I think?), so I wouldn't have got it, and throughout April and June I never got it. Now I haven't even brought a PS3/360, but I do have a good spec computer which hopefully, I think will run it at a decent rate. At some point, I'm too excited, not only because of the missions I'm going to experience, but all the gameplay and physics which I'll experience too. Euphoria is FTW and will make the experience feel awesome for me which I only experienced for a few minutes.
I hope to also play with the Video Editor too, make some funny and crazy video's up and upload them for all of you to see. It looks pretty cool, so I don't think I'll be getting bored of that. I just hope I don't get truly addicted to it, or that will be a serious problem for me.
I think it will be even more better on the PC, this time the people who don't have a console can finally experience the true momentum of GTA4, and all at it's finest.
Oh and it's fine to have that 'Discussion is open' thing.
Well if I become addicted to this(the chances are I would be), atleast when I truly have conquered it, played it, and multiplayer also played it... The only thing getting you to play the game again, will be the editor. That will be the most addictive thing I think.
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2 days are left before the release of GTA 4 in the USA, while some will wait 1 more day for the Europe & Rest of the World release. Now that everything has been told, everything discussed, specs acknowledged, screenshots and new features seen... What are your final thoughts about GTA 4, before it has been released? I myself look forward to the video editor the most. I can become a regular Spielberg from time to time(that was a joke... I never brag )
Discussion is open
(Tell me honestly... Am I starting to get real annoying with this 'Discussion is open'? Cause if I am, tell me and I will try to not write that )
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Seriosly, this whole paranoia s**t ain't good. They're just going to piss off customers that don't have Internet, but wanna play the game.
Why bother using SecuROM...when it's going to get cracked as soon as the game is released. I just don't understand what R* benefits from this???
Any ideas???
Discussion open
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Still not confirmed, many say that R* will have some kind of protection on the game from piracy(consider this a good thing). But after you install the game, you need to activate the game via internet, and not to mention you need to be online even when playing singleplayer(consider this bad or good. I on the other hand, am not so thrilled how this will work ). So is this good news or bad news?
Well tell me.
Discussion is open
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It's true Rockstar want the money, but they're going to get the money after the games released, this obviously states the fact now that they're going to have to create such a fine quality game in order to get their money, and the more they sell, the more they get. And no, the game will continue going on as it's already became a successful series and now that they have such technology like Euphoria and their new and improved RAGE, nothing will stop them from getting anywhere.
Games are created from a PC, so why not let the PC gamers have a chance to experience the full length of what the developers have been through when they were creating it. PC games will never die, as it's was made from a PC itself. So why take off PC from the list? Some people don't own 360's or PS3's like most people do, so PC seems better. Plus, graphics can go more further on the PC than on consoles.
I hope so . It's the piracy that kinda scares me. How much will it develop and advance? And how much measures will R* take for protecting their games for it? Those two questions scare me
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I have been thinking this for awhile. R* has no intention of pleasing its PC fans in the future. When it's money or fans in the question... we all know R* will likely choose money over us. We know R* and other companies are so nerved and irritated by piracy, they'll likely make games for consoles first, then consider they would like to throw a PC version. So what can we do to stop it? Can we stop it? Are we capable of stopping it?
I don't know what to say anymore(and NO! I'm not getting emotional).
We need to stop arguing about the present, and start thinking about the future... For what we know, piracy might actually ruin the PC fans...
Discussion is open
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The delay for North America is moved to 3rd of December. You live in Europe, so it was already the 3rd December for us Europeans.
so that means worldwide release right?
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Considering that I don't have a 360 or Ps3 and have not been able to play it yet, I'll o for the full package.
you're not the only one dude .i too look for the full package .
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Just what you really look forward to when GTAIV comes out for PC.
Vote and share ideas.
Disscusion is officially open .
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I'm not going to lock it, it's a good topic of discussion, but members must have misinterpreted your post as a rant, not as your own opinion. But from what I see, it is clear that it's money worries, but it shouldn't be a problem for you, your PC is pretty decent to run it, it's just the graphics may not be on top.
its not about the money.i can buy a quad if i wanted to.but i dont wanna blindly spent cash.its just the specs dont convince me much.anyways i have some sorta bad news.Rockstar pushed the date of release again.There will be a worldwide release on the 3rd of december.2nd december no release.i cant make out anything of that.
can you?im kinda lost
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Fine whatever.I clearly see the lack of judgement and understanding is clearly off today.You can lock this topic(because it's just being here,nobody reads it)
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Ever heard of testing?
These specs are right, and note, it's not a lie if it's been placed on their official website. If you want to run the game properly, then those recommended specs you see on their site are the real deal, whether you like it or not. But I can tell you something mate, if it was any lower, the game wouldn't preform well. Firstly, the processor for recommended is a Quad Core processor, isn't it? They are using a program which is called Euphoria for the game physics, and to actually make that work well with the game, you're gonna need a hardcore processor to run it at it's finest. The game itself is graphically heavier than Crysis, so you'll need a good GFX card to run that, even if it doesn't look like the most greatest graphics you've seen, it won't even look nice if you used a shitty graphics card. If you're running on a single core processor, it's going to be a real problem when you play it.
Rockstar are actually professionals at their job, if you didn't know, and if their word was wrong, then obviously they would remove those specs and redo their testing to get the right result. They haven't removed it at all, so obviously they are right, and they aren't lying. If they were lying then alot of people will complain about it, but the fact is no one would lie to the public if it's the right specs or not. Rockstar games are developers and will tell the truth, they're not lying, and never have. If a game developer was like that, they wouldn't last long in the game developing industry, and no one would buy their games, but the fact is no one would do such a thing.
This a next gen game, if you haven't seen, you'll expect it to be high because of it's latest technology. We're not returning to San Andreas mode anymore, we're playing latest games, using the latest technology.
So the sum it up, game developers don't lie, it's true some make mistakes, but this isn't a mistake, this is the official truth. I'm not trying to brag or anything, but if you believe this is wrong, you shouldn't be telling us, tell Rockstar and hear it from them, I bet they will say the same thing. But I do agree with you that they do mistakes, and not everyone is perfect, but at this point and at this stage, they can't lie, and certainly won't.
why do I get the feeling that you work for R*?(btw that was a compliment cuz you know stuff more then me apparently,and no!im not sarcastic )
but my point is this.
believe what you see,understand and try to understand everything yourself,don't believe anyone anything until you see it with your own eyes.i have a very different look towards life & humanity.but games and friends bring me back to the normal life .remember these things.
(oh btw,you're right about euphoria physics engine) but tell me this. My rig is this:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
Processor 4400+
2.31 GHz, 2.00 GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT
How will I run the game?
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Rockstar Games make enough money so there's really no problem. And releasing it the same time as the console version would make it no different to what it's soon to have. And if you haven't seen the news recently, the video editor which is being most talked about it is coming to the PC, and will give great things to do on the PC version.e The specs may seem high from what you think, but it's what Rockstar placed on their site, and to be honest, it seems right, even if you can't afford it. And you wouldn't expect GTA IV to be graphically like San Andreas, do you? This is one HUGE step for GTA IV, and if you don't think the specs are calculated properly, then why the hell would of they posted it in the first place? It's right. Live with it.
Oh and the specs are official, check out Rockstar's GTAIV page.
It's your call whether you buy the PC version or not, some people can't afford a console, and some countries don't own consoles (None that I know of). A PC release will benefit me, along with other gamers who don't have a console. And for one thing, I don't think Rockstar Games messed up, I think their heading into the right direction. This game has already met it's true standards, and is going to go higher once the PC version is out. The standards on the PC version will be better, graphics wise, and a bit in Feature wise (Video editor mainly, as it's said to be addicting).
I can see where you're coming from, but I think every game developer will be greedy once they release a game, it's just for popularity and if protection is made, it's obvious to the fact that they will still get people to buy it. Plus the reason it gets cracked is because this game is so popular everyone wants to play, so they will get even more popular, either way.
everybody lies,nodody's perfect,everyone makes mistakes.Just because they're R* does not mean their word is gold.That does not make them right everytime.R* i believe made a mistake somewhere,GTA4 is not the most graphically amazing game i've seen,the specs are even higher than Crysis(what does that tell you?that this is graphically better than Crysis?no,it points out that R* made a mistake).People hide behind words because they don't wanna use common sense.instead they need someone smart to tell them it's right or wrong.I have only confirmed that the specs are not the real deal.How they were thought of and calculated,I don't know...
GTAIV on dual core?
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Well if it will make you feel any better, Here in Macedonia nobody gives a crap about piracy. I just got off the phone, talking to a friend of mine, and he told me that he had the pirated version... and he has a dual core too, and he said the game ran on medium crystal clear and smooth. He said there were no problems whatsoever. Quite to be honest, most people with pirated versions say it runs just fine. Most people think securom fucks up everything and corrupts everything, making this game like a beta release, but that's hardly the case. I think some nvidia drivers accept, some don't. So it's really about fixing it. A patch, that would fix everything. My advise would be either try the pirated version( I know I shouldn't have recommended that, now ppl will come down flaming on me). Or would you rather wait for a patch to come. That's all I can help you with. Srry I can't more .