JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 As i said catholic church is made by men so it isnt perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 As i said catholic church is made by men so it isnt perfect Following your line of thought, what God creates IS perfect right, your religion deffends God created the world and what is in it, and those are far far away from perfect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 We are corrupted by sin and temptation nature was perfect but we came to the equation and started destroying everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 We are corrupted by sin and temptation That was funny lol. Who creates sins? God or us "his sons"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 God gave us freewill we are free to do what we want and sometimes people forget to do the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 God gave us freewill we are free to do what we want and sometimes people forget to do the right thing Maybe God didn't do the right thing by giving us freewill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I wouldn't say we forget, If we do bad things is because we are either stupid or we just want to do them knowing it's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 (edited) If u dont know what is bad how can u know what is good it cant exist good with out bad its a principle of nature Edited May 18, 2008 by JROCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 And it cant be good with out bad its a principle of nature WTF did that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Whatever, in my personal world, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty (paradise city FTW), there is no God. I just like to discuss religion in non hasty ways, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 (edited) A discussion about religion is very good because we can trade ideas Edited May 18, 2008 by JROCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkali64 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 (edited) Long story short - Religion is a load of bollocks Sorry, i just needed to get that across... Edited May 18, 2008 by Alkaline_64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 You entitled to your opinion but dont offend anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I don't see how anyone can actually believe all of it. Don't you know that when stories get passed on, they get jumbled up and exaggerated? That's probably the case with the bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I dont believe in all of it because some of it has been corrupted you have to know how to filter the information Thats why exists "catequese"(dont know how to say it in English its were u learn the catholic church ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Obviously some of it will be true, Jesus probably existed, but I doubt all those magical things happened with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Obviously some of it will be true, Jesus probably existed, but I doubt all those magical things happened with him. Probably? He did exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 He could of been made up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 No offense but thats a bit stupid comment Jesus exists there are written roman documents that says that a Jesus of Arimateia existed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkali64 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 No offense but thats a bit stupid comment Jesus exists there are written roman documents that says that a Jesus of Arimateia existed And there's another religion that says the Roman's made that up aswell... So according to your logic, if i were to write a document stating that the tooth fairy exists it's automatically true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 dont know if u know why was Jesus Born in a cave because the emperor wanted to know the population and said that everyone should be registered and Jesus wasnt an exception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 No offense but thats a bit stupid comment Jesus exists there are written roman documents that says that a Jesus of Arimateia existed I wouldn't actually know that, I don't scan old documents for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott. Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I don't think there is sufficient evidence to prove God's existience really, if there was proof that God does really exist I would believe in him, but so far no iron evidence has been found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Same, if God really wanted us to believe, we'd have been given some proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris. Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 God gave us freewill we are free to do what we want and sometimes people forget to do the right thing This is the most bullshit comment I've heard all day. And I've only just woken up, so there's plenty of time for more. You have to look deeper than just the idea of God granting us free will. We have free will in an environment where there are no clear differences between good and evil. Humans have no inherent concept of right and wrong, and God himself sure hasn't made himself present to lead the way. So therefore, if our choices lead us down the "wrong path" in life, then God has no right to bitch about it. God is the one who placed us in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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