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So, the gtaforums site has stopped working for me, either for maintenance or I don't know. I'm here because I am an enthusiast of the great Mount Chilliad Mural conspiracy. I've completed the game 100%(as much as you need) and have seen the UFOs. There is a major search by people everywhere for clues to as what the Mural painting at the lift station on top of Chilliad is and means. I was wondering how many people here have embarked on this seemingly unsolvable mystery. I have heard countless theories and explored countless dead ends, so I'm open to all and any ideas or clues from you all.

The UFO myth appeared quite early in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. It revolves around unidentified flying objects, aliens associated to them, and their possible locations. The existence of UFOs are somewhat certain to be false as the game's files have been torn apart and investigated for years however numerous people who are doubting this fact are continuing looking for them till this day. OverviewThe myth may have been started when several clues and instances appear to indicate the existence of UFOs, especially the blinking orbs seen in the night sky. There is no evidence of any "traditional" aliens or flying saucers existing in the game. The only known UFO is the fake one spinning on a pole outside the Lil' Probe Inn. The Inn has started multiple speculations about possible areas where UFOs can be seen. If the player goes down the back behind the counter they will see a small room with a radio transmitter, computer, pictures of UFOs, and a map on the wall with 11 dots marking the map. The dots are most likely pins, as there are four located in the corners of the map. The map may have marked UFO sightings. The same map is located at Mike Toreno's ranch. Nothing suspicious has been found regarding the map, it is believed that it is there only for decorative purposes and to create the atmosphere. It could be an included easter egg by Rockstar Games, as it is a prerelease map, evidenced by the massive differences in land forms. There are some pictures on the walls in the bar itself - all of them featuring real-life pictures. A news segment on the radio station WCTR mentions that residents of Bone County area have reported seeing lights over the desert. According to WCTR, the government blames water supply. The Truth, the hippy Carl meets later in the game, also speaks about "Them... Who can't control our minds" and "Snake-headed aliens who run oil business". As an oil refinery is located near Area 69, it is believed that there is a higher possibility of spotting the UFO in that vicinity, as opposed to anywhere else in San Andreas. During the mission Black Project various lines of dialogue can be heard over a P.A. system, once the player has broken into the interior. The only two alien-related messages are; "could the owner of the alien culture in the diagnostics lab please kindly remove it", and "personnel found stealing alien technology will not be invited on the next staff night out". The only appearance of the aliens is in the mission Green Goo, and inside of the game files. Internal files reveal the name of the TXD is greengoo.TXD. And the textures are named alien_liquid, alien_glass, and alien_cont2. Also in the mission "Stowaway" it is belived that the goverment agents are Aliens. Blinking sky lightsIn the night sky, players can see blinking lights in various colors with streaming lines behind them. They had existed since GTA III and have appeared in every GTA game since then, except GTA Advance and GTA Chinatown Wars. These blinking lights are merely simulations of high-altitude flying aircraft at night. Because of the possibility of being able to reach extreme heights and air speeds in GTA San Andreas and GTA IV, many players have misidentified them as alien UFOs. In GTA IV, a white small light was found that passed Rotterdam Tower close to the ground. The best explanation is that it was a bug. Men in BlackDuring the mission "Stowaway," Mike Toreno instructs Carl Johnson to destroy an Andromada plane carrying explosives for use in the Middle East. Toreno claimed that they are from another government department that supplies weapons to other countries. While on board the plane the crew will utter strange phrases whilst attacking the player, including: "you evolved from shrews", "this endangers everything", "carbon based buffoon", "idiotic mammal", "this doesn't concern you", and "the great day will come". These agents are based on the agents from The Matrix Seriesand the Men in Black series. They don black suits with black ties, and black sunglasses, and own black vehicles such as the Huntley, Bobcat and a Maverick. Their model names are bmymiband wmomib, suggesting that they are indeed based on the MIBs. They appear first in the mission Interdiction. PedestriansCertain pedestrians are speculated to be related to aliens. These include two pedestrians that players have nicknamed "Mr. Hat" and "Mr. Trenchcoat", DNMOLC1, who is suspected to be an alien by many players, and the Paranoid Cowboy, who often speaks about being abducted and/or probed by aliens. DNMOLC1DNMOLC1 is the model name given to this pedestrian in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. This pedestrian is classified as an old male Native American and a local to the desert area. He wears a Native American-style brown and red bandanna around his head and an Indian-style necklace and speaks with a Native American accent. He can be found almost anywhere in Bone County, walking around outside or in interiors and driving vehicles. Fans believe that this pedestrian is a alien disguised as an old Native American man. At first he may come off as a traditional old American Indian saying "we must take care of Mother Earth" and talking about spirits to himself. However, the first hints he gives off as being an alien impersonating an Indian is by saying "you're a genius civilization" to himself. When the player bumps into him stuff like "is this mating?", "I come in peace", and other remarks. When provoked into fighting you he says "I do not wish to hurt you", "I will throw with my right?", "I will spill your fluids", and other things that an ordinary human wouldn't say. In some of the rare conversations he has with other pedestrians he can be heard to say "You are poised for extinction". He is one of the few pedestrians that will not comment on Carl Johnson's appearance. Not much is known about the alleged "Disguised Alien". One notable thing about him is that any place you find him will be near Area 69. This is a little suspicious. However, some doubt must be taken into consideration. He may be referencing his race/ethnicity, such as "you're a genius civilization" could simply mean he adores Western culture. He may simply appear near Area 69 because of his spawn area coded into the game, which includes many other peds. "Mr. Hat" and "Mr. Trenchcoat""Mr. Hat" and "Mr. Trenchcoat" are two pedestrians that appear in the game, as the player never gets to find out their real names, fans have given them simple nicknames based on their appearance. "Mr. Hat" wears an eye-patch, a baseball cap, jeans and a blue shirt, while "Mr. Trenchcoat" wears a black cowboy hat, black trenchcoat, black boots and stars-and-stripes tie. They could be related to the aliens issue in some way. For example, most of the time they spawn near the Big Ear, the geyser or The Lil' Probe Inn - anywhere near the Fort Carson area. Some people claim that they have seen "Mr. Trenchcoat" chasing and talking to people asking them to join. It hasn't been proven that he does that, but a list of phrases that he uses often suggest that he was abducted by aliens at some point in his life: - They are watching us! - They know. - You know they know. - Get away from me! - He's one of them! - You're not gonna probe me again. - You green blooded monster. "Mr. Hat", however, doesn't say anything strange, but it was claimed many times that when killed, he spawns again almost immediately after the player has turned away. He is often seen speaking to "Mr. Trenchcoat". It was once claimed that the Sandking that spawns under The Big Ear belongs to Mr Trenchcoat. If the truck is parked there it is supposedly easier to find "Mr. Trenchcoat". The Big Ear, which some people believe was built by the military forces to control the sky in case aliens invade, points exactly North. There were suggestions about it, but no clear conclusion has been made. Paranoid CowboyThe Paranoid Cowboy is a pedestrian found walking around The Big Ear, Fort Carson, inside The Big Spread Ranch, and inside the 24/7 food market. This pedestrian model can only spawn one at a time in each location, however. This pedestrian is very hard to miss. He wears brown cowboy boots, blue jeans, a blue and white checkered flannel shirt, black sunglasses, and a large cowboy hat. He also has a light brown beard and has a cigarette in his mouth. Apparently he has a look-alike, making it rather hard to identify him, the only difference is his voice, the Paranoid Cowboy speaks with no particular accent and his look-alike speaks with a heavy country accent (also shared with another pedestrian). There isn't much to tell about the Paranoid Cowboy other than beyond making comical remarks, he is jokingly paranoid of being abducted by aliens. This is apparent by the remarks he makes about Carl Johnson's appearance. He will say to CJ: "you won't abduct me, no you won't" and "boy, you sure make a good target for them." He is presumed to be talking about aliens when saying "them". The map in Toreno's Ranch, and the Lil' Probe Inn. The Lil' Probe'Inn. Area 69. A scientist that appears inside Area 69. The green goo. The four types of lights that can be seen zooming through the sky at night. Screen capture from one video of a "UFO." A yellow "UFO."Note that the object was moving very fast. The agents appearing in Interdiction. DNMOLC1. Mr. Hat, and Mr. Trenchcoat. Paranoid Cowboy.