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    World War III Maybe On It's Way.....

    in Members' Lounge

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    smallpancake - Thanks for tracking down the working links, most people wouldn't go to the trouble.

    us senate.gov (website for US Senate) showed only a couple references & noting active. Remember, our government tends

    to introduce all kinds idiot legislation. Doesn't mean it's going to pass. As for NEWSTARGET, I can't give a lot of credit to

    a report that includes links to buy books from their "sources" like Naomi Wolf's book. Nothing on you, but this looks like

    what I'd expect from a supermarket tabloid. Five pages on Google yielded only similar sites.

    http://www.amazon.com/End-America-Letter-W...3392797/wsdm-20

    Iraq - We put those sanctions in place after we chased the Iraqis out of Kuwait in Desert Storm. Before you launch on that

    one, are you old enough to remember Desert Storm? I watched it live on CNN every night when I got home from work. I

    also remember watching Tariq Aziz (Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq) state in clear English in a press conference that Iraq's

    goal was to drive up the price of gas in the US. One more we didn't start.

    Ah, you got me. :tongue:

    I've read about desert storm, but wasn't old enough to remember it happening.

    Ron Paul - I spent a couple minutes looking this guy up & I like him. I just wish I knew for sure he could get the support

    to beat Hillary. As much as I hate the Idea, I think all he'll do is break up the conservative vote, like Ross Perot did in

    '92 (which is how the Clintons got in the first time). From what I've read he's (Ron Paul) one of the most intelligent people

    in DC.

    Yeah, I know it's far fetched, but I do believe he has a real shot at the GOP nomination. He's gaining a lot of real support nationally and in the early primary states (New Hampshire, Iowa). It's just a shame he literally does have to rage against the machine...in this case, the mainstream media.

    One of the most astounding things is his grassroots support; by far the most dedicated group of people I have ever seen for a presidential candidate.

    A grassroots supporter set up a money bomb on November 5th which was a huge success, raising over $4.2 million dollars in one day making him a front runner in GOP fundraising. There is another one planned for this December 16th dubbed the "Tea Party" which will no doubt be a huge success.

    They have also raised enough money for a blimp to arrive in Boston for the tea party celebration.

    World War III Maybe On It's Way.....

    in Members' Lounge

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    http://www.newstarget.com/022308.html

    It's not an opinion, news about the bill has been spreading just about everywhere but the mainstream media.

    As for our presence in the Middle East, we didn't start that problem. The problem started when the US made the decision to

    be a friend to Israel & pissed off a few Muslim extremists. After having their collective asses handed to them in the 6 day war they started attacking anyone who supported Israel. Again, we DID NOT start it. You can't even blame the US for re-establishing Israel in '47, it was the British Mandate for Palestine (post WWI League of Nations) & the UN.

    You got some of it right:

    The history, culture, and body of beliefs from which Bin Ladin has shaped and spread his message are largely unknown to many Americans. Seizing on symbols of Islam's past greatness, he promises to restore pride to people who consider themselves the victims of successive foreign masters. He uses cultural and religious allusions to the holy Qur'an and some of its interpreters. He appeals to people disoriented by cyclonic change as they confront modernity and globalization. His rhetoric selectively draws from multiple sources - Islam, history, and the region's political and economic malaise. He also stresses grievances against the United States widely shared in the Muslim world. He inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam's holiest sites. He spoke of the sufferings of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested the U.S. support of Israel.

    My source? The 9/11 Commission report Pages 47-49.

    The notion is that al-Qaeda and jihadist movements in general are fueled by the desire to regain countries from American presence and influence. Osama bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia and we have several military bases there. He wanted us to leave, so the jihadists convinced the people to commit acts of terror in order to weaken America and make us leave.

    Heres some other goodies to read

    American involvement in the middle east Time line

    Osama bin Laden's 1996 Fatwa, "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places"

    Oh and, I think the only plus for AK47s is the reliability factor.

    World War III Maybe On It's Way.....

    in Members' Lounge

    Posted

    You shouldn't blame Americans, nor George W. Bush.

    First of all, Americans have got nothing to do with the planning of the war and battle.

    And George W. Bush may be an asshole for many reasons but he is no psycho who wants to exterminate the eastern world.

    Don't get me wrong here, I'm far from those tin-foil hat conspiracy theory nuts, but if you honestly believe the Bush administration does not have a hidden agenda, you need to come out of your mindless patriotism and look at the facts:

    -Undeclared/Illegal war

    -Domestic Spying

    -Torture

    -Subverting National Sovereignty (NAU)

    -Eliminating Habeas Corpus

    -Violating the Posse Comitatus Act (Our military satellites will now point inward to assist REGULAR law enforcement in REGULAR law enforcement duties.)

    -Apparent abuse of Executive Privilege

    -Using tax payer funds to pay for political propaganda

    -Exposing the identity of CIA operatives as a matter of political retribution

    -Suppressing dissent by creating off the media-radar "Free Speech Zones". (The WHOLE U.S.A. is a FREE SPEECH ZONE.)

    -Refusing to add the U.S. as a plaintiff in ANY and ALL war profiteering cases.

    -Complete incompetence in a time of national disaster/emergency

    -Complete and utter contempt towards the American public.

    ...the list goes on.

    And lets not forget the bill that is going to the senate, named Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act. Haven't heard of it?

    it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA). The law has already passed the House on a traitorous vote of 405 to 6, and it is now being considered in the Senate where a vote is imminent. All over the internet, intelligent people who care about freedom are speaking out against this extremely dangerous law: Philip Giraldi at the Huffington Post, Declan McCullagh at CNET's News.com, Kathryn Smith at OpEdNews.com, and of course Alex Jones at PrisonPlanet.com

    Source

    But I'm not pulling ALL of the blame on Bush; Some of the blame goes toward the ones who voted him into office.

    In general about war on terrorism - So in the mean time what? We let jackass terrorists fly planes into our buildings & kill

    civilians?

    War for oil? Well, YES! We're at $3 a gallon (triple in last few years), do we really want to see what $5 looks like? Those

    aforementioned disasters are payed for out of our pockets via taxes & those efforts use a LOT of fuel.

    This one always makes me chuckle. They don't hate our freedoms, they hate our presence in the middle east. If China were here in the US marching through our streets, I guarantee you would want to fly a plane into one of their buildings. The terrorist attack was provoked.

    There is absolutely NO need to invade Iran, especially after information was released declaring their nuclear program as INACTIVE.

    And on a side note, that $600 billion could have been spend on alternative fuel development, not satisfying our thirst for oil.

    TGTAP Is Five!

    in Announcements

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    Heh, new people who think this place is cool just don't know. Just don't know how it was in the day, man. B)

    Five years, eh? I've wasted almost five years of my life here? Wow. Just... Wow...

    Those we're the days. Biggamer132 in the house? But honestly, this place is not what it used to be. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but something about it has changed.

    CNN Youtube debate

    in Members' Lounge

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    What a load of shit! The most biased debate I have ever witnessed. Ron Paul was given the least amount of time out of all the other candidates (Giuliani and Romney got the most air time, as expected) and the questions he received were obviously out to smear him, something along the lines of; "Do you believe in a North American Union" and "Will you run as an independent considering you will loose the GOP?". Compare those to the realistic questions the other candidates received, and it becomes clear it was a scammed debate. They also aired his commercial video at the end.

    The funny thing is he answered the trash questions brilliantly.

    What pisses you off?

    in Members' Lounge

    Posted

    Isn't really stereotyping when they really do drive 20-year old pieces of shit with poor gas mileage. Seriously, these rednecks are getting on my fucking nerves. Doesn't really help that I'm in East Tennessee and 80% of the people around me are rednecks who do that shit. And most of them act like they could kick your ass, even though the majority of them are wimps too chicken-shit to do anything other than talk.

    Fuck rednecks. Right in their cousin-screwing asses.

    If you're wondering why I'm so hostile towards rednecks, let me explain a few things. I can't stand country music, NASCAR, most pickup trucks, boot-cut jeans, and anything else which may classify you as a redneck around here. Not to mention I've been discriminated against by rednecks for the past four years.

    It's funny, because I wear Levi's 527 Bootcuts, listen to Heartland rock, and drive a compact pickup truck with a cut muffler; but I don't consider myself even close to a redneck and neither does anyone else I know.

    Fears

    in Members' Lounge

    Posted

    I'm just afraid of...nothing in practice, if you accept the reality (eg. death) you don't have to fear anything IMO

    --Too tired to think of any of my fears, if any...gotta eat and zzz...

    {my 600th post...w00t !1! }

    Look everybody! He's Fearless! :worship:

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