Harwood Butcher

Yeah that'd be cool if you could buy more properties in this one.

Well it could be a mafia family from 1984 and they get totally destroyed and never seen again. That's what happened to Diaz's Criminal Empire. Did you ever hear about Diaz's Empire in any other GTAgame besides VC? No because he was totally destroyed. When he died so did his Empire.

Well you never know cause all that the radio said in VC 86' was that the bridges were opening to Vice City "mainland" and if they said bridges and if the island is only accessible by helicopter and or plane then it could be possible but I to dont really think that its another island but im going for any possiblities.

Well that could be true but would if we do cross over with the VC 86' Storyline but we find that Victor has armor on and we continue the storyline past the events that happened in VC 86'. I'm not to sure about this but I would love for that to happen.

I already answered this for my friend over IM. If you noticed, the skeleton isnt buried but is in a hole that is maybe a foot deep. After being in a grave that hasnt been burried with it raining, especially from the hurricans, it would decay very rapidly. Within 2 weeks it would, most likely, be totally decaded.

Well there is the other mission too that we might be doing. Sinking the ships and submarines in VC 86'

Thanks for the compliments. I actually got a lot of non-KoRn fans into liking their music with that song. Oh well I guess I cant get everyone to like their music. I'm pretty sure you'll like the song I have for my 6th video a lot better then the one in my 5th. My 6th video will be posted next Sunday so remember to check back here for the new video.

No I think Rockstar does a good job with their characters with the exception of CJ...He sucked.

I think that in Vice City Stories we'll have to kill the person that is in that grave. What do you guys think?

LOL your point? My uncle is more than 10 years younger than my dad and my uncle is bald.

Well I was warming the seat up for you so welcome . Finally someone has my back on that.

yeah Brady Games makes the most reliable stratagy guides and I wouldn't think that they could mess that up. They were only givin 4 ages to put in that stratagy guide and the closes ages that they could mess up are ages 33, Ken Rosenberg and 35, Tommy Vercetti. If they messed up Ken's or Tommy's with Lance's then he would still be older than Victor. I dont think they made the ages up cause some of the characters dont have ages mentioned. So I think that they got it from Rockstar themselves but we'll just have to find out.

Sorry for double posting but I just released my 5th stunt video last night. So here it is

That first question sounds a little weird cause then Victor would only have been head of the Vance Crime Family for a year or less. The second one makes me think a little because the magazines did say that Rockstar got rid of the point A to point B missions and have a totally different way of doing missions and if you're head of the Vance Crime Family than the new way of doing missions could be that you hand out missions and shit and do your own as well. But then again the magazines say that Victor is older than Lance and he isnt so who knows what else they f***ed up.

LOL. CJ and Cesar were not the leaders of one gang together. Sweet was the leader of the Grove Street Families and Cesar was leader of the Aztecas. Claude wasnt in a gang and neither was 8-Ball. All that Claud and 8-Ball did together is break out of that enforcer and escape. Yeah every once and a while Claud would get some bombs from 8-Ball but they weren't really friends let allown partners/leaders of a gang together. Victor was head of the Vance Crime Family. Go look at Vicecity.com, it says so there.

Yay I found something big! ok now back to the storyline issue. Do you guys think that we find out in VCS that Lance plans on killing off his older brother? This could be a big part of the storyline. Maybe that was the reason Victor is the main character. In VC 86' his death seemed to be just a plot to the game but could end up to have a whole other story behind it.

Do I get mentioned or aren't I that important :'( ...I dont care though its your site...but would be nice EDIT: Was this before or after I got banned? PM me about it. Back on topic!

See thats what I was thinking. He set up the whole thing from the start. EDIT: I'm getting all these IM's from my friends that go to the one forum, dont want to say the name...advertising. Anyways they keep IMing me saying that I got "Owed" thinking im wrong about Lance being older...I proved over 20 people now wrong with that info I got from the (Official) Stratagy Guide. I cant believe that they'll listen to Adriaan when I give them proof from an official stratagy guide where as Adriaan only says that he got it from a magazine...hmmm (Official) Stratagy Guide over magazine...I'll go with the Official info. Now this whole thing is pissing me off. I know im right seeing as I got it from an official source.

I should of just called the topic "Lance is older than Victor" LOL. I thought everyone knew that. Anyways do you guys think that he could have been the reason for Victors death??? Some of you already answered.

Yeah thats how me and Adriaan got into that fight. He was listening to them or something. Calling me stupid. Dissing my site. LOL ok ill try to remember that.

I was 100% sure about Vice City Stories being the next game and you were telling me I was full of shit. Then I know im right about Lance Being older than Victor. But I have to admit im not 100% on this one...I just like pulling your chain...LOL. But to me it does look like the Vortex but again im not 100% sure of this.

I respect him cause I think hes a good admin. He banned me because he thought I was insulting people but I was just being sarcastic and shit. I sent him an E-Mail asking to be unbanned and how sorry I was...I ended up sending him a 3-4 paragraph apology E-mail. So if you see me say shit on here that seems insulting just let me know about it cause I dont mean it....if you guys make a sarcastic button that'd be great. But yeah I dont say any racial shit and I try not to swear too much. Back on topic: I have a pic of Lance's profile from the guide

I never insulted him or any members. All I said to the members is "ohh Pwned" after they said it to me. I have nothing but respect for Adriaan and i am very said I was banned because I knew that Lance was older and that Adriaan didnt. I think he just doesnt want to look wrong or something but I still have nothing but respect for him.

Yeah I know that but you never know. They might've been saving some info on who was all involved.

LOL on this other forum I posted the same topic and everyone started to call me a retard cause they said and I quote "yeah victor is older you should no you claim you no vice city more then anyone.". Guess what I do.