Harwood Butcher

Sorry for the double post but here is a Clip of Lance talking to Tommy either saying. "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My little brother would do that." This is what I think he said since he was choked up. He could have said "little" On the other hand he could have said this "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My bigol' brother would do that." When I got a Slow-mo clip of it, it sounded to me that he said this "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My gittle brother would do that." What do you guys think?

It looks like a Sabre to me

Where did you get the 2 heli pics? Never seen them before...

LOL ok so its just a coincidence that Rockstar made a Flatbed carrying something that looks like the Hydra and they didnt intend to make a fighter jet in SA. Since when is anything just a coincidence with Rockstar?

Deffinetly not him. He was getting buried after the hurrican passed so it would take even longer to decay then it would if that peron in there died in 1984.

You probebly wont be doing missions for him you'll be doing missions with him...he's Vicotr's brother.

Read my theory Grand Theft Auto Radio Theory Find the link on that page that should say "Radio Theory" If you read the first paragraph it says... "Now first off this "Easter Egg" wasn't in GTA III but was thought to be when Carcer City was mentioned on one of Liberty City's radio stations. Carcer City was the location of Rockstar's own Manhunt video game. Later after Rockstar found out that fans thought Carcer City was the next Grand Theft Auto location, they began to only hint at future Grand Theft Auto locations, in their Grand Theft Auto games, instead of locations in any and all their future game locations."

Yeah your point? We didnt know that SA would be the next location but they had it on the radio.

This might be another Easter Egg Rockstar left in VC.

Well you're not looking at their files. Tommy was in prison for 15 years because he killed 18 people in Harwood with his bare-hands, hense his nickname "The Harwood Butcher". CJ did what...RUN away from Los Santos to go to Liberty City and hide...hes a pussy.

Is it me or does that look like the shape of a Hydra from San Andreas?

Wow how did LCS show Salvatore in jail hmm I dont know...

No GTAIV is most likely gonna be based in 2007 when it is released. They always did that with the first game of the trilogy, although I dont think the first game of the first trilogy had a time set...or was that GTA II that didnt have a time set...I wasnt that into the first trilogy as much as the ones they have now. But GTAIV Part 2 could be in the 1970's.

what does that have to do with anything? Besides where does it say that Johnny dies? Just because it looked like he had a heart attack doesnt mean he did and even if he did doesnt mean he died.

WTF are you talking about? That was a real deal that was made between Sonny and the Vance Brothers which was ambused by Diaz. He bribed a swat team to ambush the deal. Lance ran away cause he was a coward. Lance later "teamed" up with Sonny when Lance thought Tommy wasn't giving him a fair "slice". You dont know what the hell you''re talking about. You have nothing to prove what you just said.

very possible but he was completely submerged under water and if he was in there since 1984 he would be completely decayed and probebly eaten by a shark.

I think it'd be cool if you see those 2 gangs and then a brand new gang. You team up with either Leone's or Sindacco's and destroy the other gangs. Or you just might team with Diaz's Criminal Empire but I'm not to sure how big it was in 1984.

I thought Cubanwhip had a lot of great stunts in there. I would consider our stunts the same. Thanks for the comments. That one stunt you were talking about with the grind would have been cool getting up there but I could'nt that was the highest I could get.

Reckless Driving Starring: Roberto Garcia A.K.A. Cubanwhip & Dan Fox A.K.A. Original GTA Master This is for all those Car Stunt lovers out there.

If you want some stupid little simple game than go get True Crime or something.

Dude havn't you seen the pictures? Plus people have tested Vice City Stories out and put in their magazines that you play as Victor Vance...its confirmed.

Well if you mean Gonzalez than yes he and Diaz were connected. Juan Cortez was doing business with Diaz and Juan and Gonzalez were good friends.

You wont work for Victor Vance...you will be Victor Vance.

Vice City Stories is based in 1984 when Victor Vance is alive. Besides we aren't possitive that Victor died doring that ambush.

Yeah designing missions after the main storyline would be pretty cool. Make it really elaborated or how ever you spell that. You would get tons of choices such as: -What type of mission? --Assassination, you could actually kill off people from the storyline ---choose a character from the storyline ----choose when to do it -----choose who helps you ------choose what you're gonna use to get the job done --car theft, you cant leave this one out..."Grand Theft Auto" ---choose a vehicle ----choose from a list of areas its at --Protection buyers, you go and make them pay protection ---choose a property ----choose how you'll do it -----choose whos involved --Gang war, sorta like SA but more organized ---choose gang ----choose part of gangs territory ----- choose alliences involved ------choose weapons ect. --Property destruction, blow up anything to get what you want or just for payback, "Payback's a Bitch" ---choose someones property to blow up or just a random list of other properties ----choose alliences involved -----choose how to do it It would be even more elaborate than this...I think it'd be kick ass and it would give you something to do after the storyline.