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Hi Joel, well to activate the game you need to connect to the net BUT you DONT have to use the pc its installed on in order to activate it, you can proly even use one at a library or wherever, if you have to, jus use the procedure they provide, in order to do this, you can find instructions here SecuRom & Activation Here is the initial support page w/ lotsa info R*support Thing is, in order to SAVE the game, YES you have to sign in to that freaking WLive crap, sorry, I jus think its stupid but just like when you start up the game and after it loads the 2 R* icons, a message is displayed that "you.re not signed in to Windows Live... in order to save your progress you must be signed in.." some crap like that... Why can't your laptop connect, you dont have an ethernet port ? What model is your laptop ?

I hope its ok I post this here You can go here to read and download http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1058714807 The 4th page in the lot, is where Aru explains in more detail and I try to do the same on down the page, on how to make it so you can mod files like handling.dat and others. Aru has a "gta_magic.zip" to dld, it contains magic.bat, kinda automates the renaming of the moddable files but it can be alil tricky, have to read carefully. It also contains the "filelist.pak" you need ... I've successfully read through carefully for the initial "test of one file" to be sure it works and it DOES!! The cop vehicles are goin about 1-7 mph, (cept for the FBI - left that for my use too) and have a hefty Hummer thats pretty quick =oP

Hmm, I don know, I never did ALL of the stuff ... I dint know however that someone had a guide on how to find all the random characters, I was tryin to figure out how to find them, assuming there might be several... I need to search that..

Yea I feel stupid I needed to scroll down to ge to it LOL Thanks Ryan Yw, its no prob, when I was on console, I remember the same thing, I was like.... man it must be a glitch cuz ppl said you get xx car jobs from him but I only had x, so I realized I had inadvertently went into the message but intended to go in another so on another load of the game I wondered, why dint I get any messages from him, same thing ...

lol, I know how you feel aziz, I traded in some other games back during preorder, then couldnt play it right for like 4 days but as time goes on & I learn more about what needs to be done etc .. its gettin a lil better.. I was considering trading it on somethin else but I think I'll hang on to it.. Ppl already workin on mods, I got "Aru's" to work from GTAF, so I can edit the handling.dat for example ... Its not runnin perfect or ideal but its not on alotta systems, R8 says the higher settings were intended for "future pc's" .. I got abit pisst too but I've settled down abit, its up to you to do what you want w/ your cash & stuff .. Specially if upgrading your pc isnt desireable or even an option for reasons of cash etc, then you may want to keep troubleshooting or spend your cash on Jackie Chan like you said...

Hi aziz, Well try to relax my Friend, we all had to pay XX bux to get this thing and its pisst alotta us off cuz all the update this/that, wrong this, insufficient blah... First, here is R* support http://www.rockstargames.com/support/req_s...p;submit=Submit. That will give you MINIMUM & RECOMMENDED Settings for the game, your game box comes w/ proly recommended if not both req specs. It appears your pc is on the minimum req side: 1. Cpu -(Intel 2 Core "Duo" 1.86GHz) 2. Your memory shows 1022MB, thats equal to 1GB, the minimum is 1.5GB.. This isnt to say YOU MUST get more mem but lets continue 3. It shows your operating system in the DXdiag, as MS XP Pro the SUPPORTED OS is, in your case, XP (Home or Pro) PLUS service pack 3(you said you dlded already), PLUS Dx9(you already have), PLUS .NETframework 3.5 So why you used compatability "win 2000" I don know ... thats goin backwards .. 4. Graphics minimum is 256MB Nvid 7900 (yours at 7300 is below the minimum - but could still work) So now we've established that on the specs side, you have the minimum cpu, OS & service pack, directx9, BUT, you're less than minimum on the system RAM and graphics card, I also dont know that you downloaded .NETFramework 3.5 .... If you want to get components greater than what you have, is a LIL more tricky, you need to determine the upgrade options of your motherboard. Like, type & max memory supported, cpu support, graphics card support, these are found generally in your manual. However, you may be able to search online at the manufacturers website for this manual or on google for your board's specifications. You can look at some sys specs by right clicking on "My Computer" , select "properties", it should show there what Service Pack you have... and few other things.. Furthermore another way to view more in-depth specs is to open your "Run" dialog & type "msinfo32", This will give you ALL this other info, SP, cpu, memory, even your system board manufacturer and model, so you can use that to reference on their site or google .. You can dld sys info programs like sisoft sandra for free but have limited functionality but does provide good info, benchmarking etc.. O and generally when you upgrade vid drivers, they suggest you uninstall old drivers first, this can sometimes be fuzzy cuz the OS sometimes tries to reinstall them but jus cancel outta that.. Some also recommend disabling anti-virus as it did w/ mine, so the display driver will register properly...

Ty Orly, I havent OC'd anything as of yet, what are you usin to OC your cpu, is it a built in or dlded utiltiy, my pc is brand name w/out and OC utilities built in. I had tried a card utility rivatuner but it was initially said by R* that this & other tuners could be causing the texture missing problem I was experiencing.. so I had removed it but still experience on these lower settings some texture loss, dunno if that is sys RAM at 2GB is the cause still, as they spec 2.5GB for Vista recommended specs.. I dint know about this "Fusion" :: is reading ::

Yep, WRX is right cuz even the MINIMUM specs on R* site say "Supported OS's XP (PLUS SP3), Vista(PLUS SP1)".

what did you see onscreen when the benchmark was taking place ? Yours is similar in system specs to mine, how much graphics and system RAM do you have ?

Hey Whar, actually you & I have similar pc specs, I think what he meant by "green mode" was proly cool n quiet which is like a power saving feature where the cpu slows, voltage is lowered etc but that is not post to happen unless the system is in more of an idle state, not while its runnin full blown apps that demanding 60-90% + cpu as this game does.. Updating: This is an excerpt from an article posted 12/4 on GTAF from R* Techy regarding that (green mode) It is to be addressed in the PATCH... "Issues with power management software have also been fixed (slow speed, double speed issues). Even after the patch comes out setting power management software to maximum performance is recommended. We’ve seen cases where power management software does not detect the game is running and puts the CPU in green mode." I've not playt the game much cuz I was havin probs but now I've been waitin most for mods, like to use custom controllers, edit handling etc .. Anyway, I was havin BAD probs in the beginning, I updated EVERYTHING (drivers/software) but not much difference. I did have the game set at this however, in order 1440x900 Render= Highest 37 99 99 5 It dint have best FPS but was playable, still eventually it kept runnin out of texture, roads & stuff would disappear so.. R*'s suggestion did not fix it either so I jus lowered Res & other settings, it doesnt look pretty but it had ran for the limited times I playt it .. Sorry couldnt offer a "fix" ..

cool, I just wish you could figure out how to do all of them, its weird .. As I said, they seem random, they're in the "Score" section, it jus says "Random characters met".. I wish I knew the number of them & how you can meet them all, one dude was messt up... I wont tell ya.. but on console I member seeing his lil icon so I chased it down & I was thinkin as he talkt, do I really wanna take this dude to where he wants to go ?!, so yea I drove him to where he wanted to go & off into the water & made him stay there, to make sure he wasnt comin back. After playin later on & reloads, I never seen his icon again..

Nope Macorules, apparently they "replaced" the army base w/ the prison .. You can fly into it atleast and pick a fight w/ an inmate, sometimes I been there and not seen any, other times when I go to land, you see alot of em runnin all around.. I saw one in there once by the bleachers & kinda aggitated him til he hit me, then a guard came to arrest him, he took off runnin & guards chase, I eventually took him out myself.. The tank was cool but I miss the Apache & fighter most.. Eventho I thought this one had a fighter that shows up to shoot you down when I think you have all the stars, I could've sworn when I was in the police heli w/ all stars & that amongst other helis I saw a fighter circling and I later assumed thats what wasted me.. I know they also use RPG's on you so I'm not 100%.. I never kept all the stars while in a heli, for very long, one thing you never want to do is get all stars and assume bailing out over water will save you cuz you'll have x # of cop boats on you fillin you w/ holes, obviously you can't open your phone down in the water so you're screwed ...

WOW, lotsa stuff Ben.. As for the camera, yea I hate it too, its like its more passive than active.. I havent playt much I'm still pokin around lookin at progress on mods and such ... I dint really look, is there no adjustment for camera in the settings menu ? I wonder if there is cmd you can enter, maybe coming in a mod ... Actually, I felt like most cars were pretty well designed kind of to their respective vehicle type, the comet is one of my favs, Romans taxi drives about like a dogon bus as you'd expect. Big heavy cars pretty sloppy, the lil compact surprisingly does pretty good but like I'd expect.. I jus thought the vehicles acted like you expect well IN THE CONSOLE VERSION... Its alot harder tryin to drive these damn things w/ your camera lookin at that mailbox <-- back there, while you are tryin to go --> this way or make a turn ... I've not even tried to fly in the game.. It really seems best w/ a controller, if I can get one to work AND not have any glitches, roads ending infront of me, I can drive like a bat outta hell ... I agree, the countrysides and different scenery was pretty nice, the only downside was there wasnt enough in those areas to do for me ... I mean to have a large mountainous area where a lil town of some "hippies" live & there isnt anything really to do there, is kinda borning .. I liked the tankers and stuff in IV but I wanted more functional things like let us blow up more tanks & things.. There are only a few fuel tanks you can blow up.. Let us do some exciting stuff like send that freak refinery sky high, then put it on the radio & news next day, let us stand afar off while the cops & such wonder what the heck happened.. I had an idea, you know what'd be really cool, is YES YES YES to be able to destroy more of the environment PERIOD but also it'd be cool to see construction slowly take place after blowing up certain things, then heck we could come back & blow it up again during or after construction, kinda goofy maybe but I jus like to blow sht up Nope no parachute :\ Hey, if you havent, you need to check out ben buja/machinima on YT .. Thats the one to his bloopers 2 .. He has a few of em, there are other vids, He's pretty dogon good, he's been featured in interviews & stuff. Ofcourse you'll never see him wearin a parachute, jus dying ALOT and makin some incredible jumps/falls & survive.. I don know whas up w/ the drivers, I noticed this earlier, I was runnin and I saw cars swerve here and there, speeding, I thought WTF ?? They tryin to run me over ?! Sometimes they do get out the way if you toot the horn or have on sirens most likely.. Again, cant say much more about gameplay on the pc yet... Thanx for posting your opinions, theres a "wishlist" topic somewhere around I done put it in my thoughts on what I'd liked .. Did you ever meet any of those lil blue icon ppl I was telling you about ?

erm, nope Ryan, its proly not deleted, you jus may not be seeing it, cuz w/ emails like in real life, after viewing, they will be "marked as read", so its not highlighted, scroll through all your emails & look for those from Brucie, you have to REPLY to the email which starts the mission to go retrieve the vehicle, then once you get it to him (undamaged for the most cash), you will find another email for the next vehicle, REPLY etc ...

Well, I do think its abit comical and ironic that first, he decides that vid games are tools of evil & destruction ... Yet what has more weight, first, doing things that yea for underage children is inappropriate content (hence reason for ratings) that is all done it a totally virtual & ficticious world or being charged for doing things in the REAL WORLD like he has ""Engaging in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation." " Granted some things go overboard in games, IMO, like tig ol bitties and asp.. And really gorey, sickening things like something you'd see in silent hill w/ extreme deformed and twisted part human part WTF ?? creatures ... Very suggestive material and profanity that is normally reserved for adult audiences that can even go overboard .. Otherwise, I like doing things in these virtual worlds that I wouldnt in real life. Sure in the game it loox/sounds funny runnin your vehicle into persons but never in real life, I've never ran anyone over in all my yrs on this earth & had hmm one accident that wasnt even my fault. No trouble, no jail time, no juvie time, no drugs/alch, NOTHIN, I do my damage in a virtual world !

Ruud, actually there is some dispute over "mem useage" in Vista/XP, Xp has prefetch, Vista has superfetch. I'm not sure if Xp caches that in memory or in virtual... I know Vista uses superfetch to load things into memory that based on "useage characteristics" win "thinks" you will most likely need so they are already in memory, giving some performance enhancement. Ppl will notice in performance tab, how it loox like they are OUT of or nearly out of memory, the claim is, w/ superfetching, its filled much of the memory w/ data so other than lookin at processes, you dont know what is takin up how much... Well, when I run the game, I noticed tween 1.6GB to 1.85/.95GB being used, thats almost ALL mem, only have 2 GB .. So I thought that might be a problem, also noticing many other folks have 4GB .. Thats not the game using it all but w/ all the processes of the game, I'd say it uses most of it.. I know the main exe uses lil over 1GB .. Rest is social club I think that useless thing is like 30-40MB " "unhandled exception" out of the blue...why it wasn't handled i dunno lol." Havent you been payin attention to the world economy !! They were tryin to cut costs, thats why it dint have a handle Wow, I remember Apple pc's in school w/ the 5¼ floppies, I can still hear the racket from that thing .. My first pc when I was lil was a Tandy 2100, 100 MHz Intel .. I can't member if hmm, was a 255MB HD, win 3.1, I think it had 32 or 64MB SIMM. I ruined it too, or so I thought as a kid, so naturally I had to open it up & see what all the goodies were inside My, ahem, interest in silicone started from there! Yea console is better for the gameplay for me just cuz I'm used to it and its a gaming system primarily, well atleast games like this.. Half life, C&C etc I'm better w/ on pc, course you can install mods in them w/ out BS!!

O, well as for popups I was just refering to the social club sign ins and ofcourse the not signed into windows lived stuff you have to get through EVERY TIME YOU LOAD, sheesh .. As for problems, I dont know, I dint design the game or components in my pc.. All I can say is what happens, what I see etc.. In the beginning it was really fubar .. updating everything made no notable difference.. The RGSCLanucher still wont work right but the one in the 1_0_0 ... folder works perfect, its jus the one in the "rocksta social club" itself that doesnt, its the one thats defaulted to autostart w/ windows .. I jus created a shorcut from the other one & use it to launch.. Now I've been trying to mod a lil w/ no success :\ I have the retail as opposed to dlded from steam etc .. Folks are hard at work on solutions however .. I've seen a new OpenIV prog that "eagle.." posted a link to, when its finisht, it loox to be a cool prog.. I DID have my pc running pretty high Claude, I had render on highest, & then following your stats in order, I had 1440x900 resolution, 37, 99, 99, 5 .. Gph mem useage was about 3?? MB out of avail 491MB.. Believe it or not it was workin and lookin great, jus eventually textures wouldnt show up so I had to back it all down, which is kinda doofy since part of the hype for the game was the high graphics over console but heck if ya cant use em w/ out a $5000 pc, whas the point heh.. They say the pc lower settings beat the console, doesnt look like it to me .. loox worse..

Hey, I know it may not be what you're lookin for but check out this guy, http://www.thisisnotalabel.com/An-Indie-Ra...n-for-GTAIV.php He made his own "radio station" for the game.. Its an mp3 so it goes in that folder where obviously it will remain the constant if R* did their programming right heh .. It just gives me the simple idea, heck, put in your own mp3's, make your own commentary, splice together, have Friends help too, & you have your own custom station.. I've only heard the first few mins of this guy's creation, I think he put in time/effort to make a station he likes, I think to make it more genuine, you need more excitement in your voice, different flexions, add in some cheesy commercials or whatnot, other ppl/voice imitations would help, ts where Friends come into play.. Could get together w/ em, heck this could open up a whole new "music mod" topic for ppl to discuss music selections, funny commentary & ads !!

Yep, same w/ me, definately makes it more challenging, its like its a passive instead of active camera mode.. I'm hoping there will be some fixes to allow for mods or more reliable ones on retail versions.. I think you also really need a controller or I do for best gaming experience. I'm waitin to see what support for controllers may come w/ the patch..

Bx300, unless it was intentional, your topic heading is a lil misleading, I thought you were speaking of ppl's pc's running to slow while playin the game & perhaps there was a remedy for it.. It would be more fitting to title it "R* (or spelled out) your servers are running too slow", somethin like that, just a honest suggestion...

Well this is the first time they've put GTA on the pc at this scale, not the first of the series for pc but of this scale, so frankly, while I try to sympathize, I think maybe they shoulda/coulda done more "homework" b4 setting it on this platform, its not like this is their first intro for the pc platform, BUT as I said b4, as an example, a 100 million consoles all w/ the same hardware & software is different than a 100 million pc's w/ varying hardware/software configurations! Regardless of what they say, the statement that it "ran beautifully on our system" isnt a valid selling point for sure, since first no one knows their system specs and most proly can't afford it, all the more reason why they had apparently said to some degree that the higher settings were for "future pc's" to take advantage of.

yea, well it certainly isnt news really to anyone.. This series has been in the top spots for ......... I came into the series on GTA III, I hadnt played a game like it b4.. It was cool but I wanted more.. Then VC made it even better, one of the funniest parts of the games has ofcourse been the ped dialog.. I wasnt crazy about soma the more suggestive themes, frankly I was "turned off" by the excessive sexual themes, goodgrief, I really could care less than to see poor cartoony characters in a game go through motions and sounds of sex, never saw the "hot coffee" scene dont care to, I'm sure it was explicit but I could imagine it on the low level, "ohhh what pixels!! , its the result of clever coding baby, I do like your textures, you got some fly resolutions "girl", uh huh 1600x1280!, lets integrate, ohh ohh, 010..101..1011..001..110".. lol Otherwise SA was coolest w/ the ability to fly planes, that jumbo jet was massive!! I REALLY miss the Apache and Fighter... The jetpack was cool too.. I liked being able to customize cars but as far as ingame it wasnt all that good, I mean they obviously werent focusing much on it, just an add-in.. You had some cars that lookt much better w/ out the mods as they were so cheesy.. Others lookt really good tho.. I dint like how at times when you take over territory, you could load up the game and find your stats showing you had none.. Other times I'd played & took over some territory, it'd be there next load, but upon taking over all of it, it later said I had none & ballas were out everywhere .. GTA IV, nice to see better graphics and better cars, the HUMMER is my fav for car smashin & flippin as well as cop evasion! It kinda sux you goin through the windshield at most inopertune times, say when ya have 7 cop cars on your tail =oP Otherwise it is a cool feature, ESPECIALLY since other ppl, including cops fly through the windshield.. Unfortunately it doesnt have much get up & go, the "plane tower" at the airport is pretty good for head-ons & puttin ppl through the windshield, best in FP camera.. The missions are pretty good, but I really would like a lil more freedom in missions to be abit stealthier!! Like when I have to take out the baddies, I get my sniper out from x distance, only to zoom & see that they can already see me w/ their weapons pointed str8 at me .. Comon, ts part of the element of surprise man .. It sux when you try to get the baddies in that "open" multilevel building, they can see & shoot you from across the street.. I think lowering their field of vision would help, stealth & skill is part of what keeps you alive say in real-life or in the gaming world, so let us have more element of surprise.. I hate those missions where you have to follow or drive on a certain path only or you fail.. Granted there is some freedom in some missions but others demand a-b-c ... The GPS was a nice addition since maps are so big & until you really learn them its hard to find places from here to "50 miles away".. I dint like the few & somewhat sporadic safehouses. What happened to the purchase of properties ?? You get all that $$ in the game & nothin to spend it on cept the hospitals, that sux, proly tryin to keep it closer to real life, lol .. The street parking was not bad, pretty convenient but cops atleast, would occassionaly steal my vehicles, I know, I seen em do it or I'd load up & the car was gone so I figured they took it or it was a glitch one.. We know cops often steal moving or parked cars to give chase or transport criminal.. I liked the fact the cops also go after other ppl & if you provoke them into hittin you w/out the cops seein you hit them, they arrest of shoot them, thats fairer ! I've also been able to help cops indirectly by running after a guy they're chasing, run into him, he falls, the cop paid me a compliment on more than one occassion, I even got in a fight w/ a prisoner in the yard, he hit me, a cop showed up to "arrest" him, heh, an extra cool-bit. I'm not so much into "stunt" performances, but its good to have ramps & whatnot throughout for escape routes & resulting "stunts" can be pretty cool.. Obviously bail out has been improved, I don know how many times I've driven along, bailed & watcht the vehicle run into ppl & stuff, the cops wont come after you IF you arent in the vehicle upon impact, normally .. I'd like a lil less reactiveness from ppl gettin outta the way.. When you're on foot w/ grenades, the RPG or few other weapons, its cool to hear ppl acknowledge it & run like hell! lol I'd like to see more weapons/customize option .. The phone, its aight, good to have the option to cancel calls AND put it in sleep mode, dang, I was gettin tired of ppl callin to have a drink, play darts, pool, bowling or TITTIES ROMAN, lol .. Integration of codes was better than manual button mashes everytime but they dint make it that easy, closing the phone when you get shot, hahaha very funny .. Those dogon cops have TOO good an aim too, they are too many that pop up outta nowhere & it seems that honestly a certain bit of "HA you're OWNED" is programmed into the game.. For one, I noticed in Ps3, you can't get ridda the cops w/ one push of the code, it can take 50 or more pushes, its like for some reason maybe you blew up a cop car or 2, whatever, sometimes it goes off, otherwise wanted reappears, again,again,again,again and on and on.... I've also been blown up by the RPG firing on its own ??!! Some cops got me when I was low on health so I took out some cops afterwards, there were some cars around, I RPG'd the cop cars, noticed a couple cars on fire, I was near a building abit, soon as those cars blew up & another cop showed up, I blew him up, then another was coming, I started to aim but b4 he got the RPG up, it fired on its own!! into the ground/building wasting Niko... Its like it got pisst cuz I was takin out the cops, so it took me out, thats happened on more than one occassion, it fired one or 2 times more after I was already in the "grey" "wasted" ... Almost like its programmed that way, where, hmm you been mean taking out these ppl or cops, so .. lol Overall, its obvious I like this game the BEST! Despite the "pc issues", RS has proven they've only made the game better w/ just a few things we miss or would like in the (current) or next game, hint hint =oP

O, which one do you use, an Xbox ? Yea, well I hope someone can help the rest of us get to a place of playin w/ mods .. I wonder if I burn it, it'll fix it ? No, I mean BURN IT!!!

I seen it rappo, I been over there for awhile trying things but I've not had any luck w/ the retail .. I did manage to use um a GTAlauncher some guy had ddf7 or something ... It patched an address, game started was doin ok, altho, I wondered if that damned securom started actin up .. well at first, the strangest thing, ppl were driving fast and erratically, swerving all in the road like they were all drunk or somethin ... I tabbed out for a sec tho, soon as I did the game halted ... O well, hope someone comes up w/ somethin to allow us disc holders to mod.

So, you're saying you tried this ""The Application Has Failed To Launch" Cause: Bug when downloading GTAIV through Steam. Credit: SmileSkill Solution: 1) Manually navigate to the Steam folder 2) Open "SteamApps" 3) Open "Common" 4) Open "Grand Theft Auto IV" 5) Open the "RGSC" folder 6) Double click "RGSCLauncher" 7) Click back 8) Open "GTAIV" 9) Double click "LaunchGTAIV.exe" After completing these steps, GTAIV should launch successfully whether you open through Steam or "LaunchGTAIV.exe" "" That is their solution, thats to me, sounds like they are jus trying to launch the same files, w/ out going through steam, so ... I know that I was having a problem w/ RGSCLauncher, I realize there was something wrong w/ the one in the second folder so I went into the 1_0_0 .... folder, grabbed a shortcut from that one, put it on my desktop & now RGSCL runs w/ no problems, well, so long as I'm not trying to mod... If you gets your workin, you can proly mod it, as many ppl seem to be doing so w/ the downloaded version ... Many of us w/ the disc arent having much luck YET !