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Because the Housers are a couple of greedy assholes and Microsoft is your usual evil company that would rather sell more garbage than one good product, even if that product is popular as all hell and was proven to take them to the top. Don't bring Sony into this, they have their own product and they stick with it. Microsoft and Rockstar were involved in PC software way before Xbox. But fuck Rockstar, they are just a game developer, but Microsoft created the most popular PC operating system, which made them the biggest corporation on the planet, you don't need to be an expert in logic (which definitely isn't your case) to realize that they should have continued to put Windows ahead of every other product from every point of view, including gaming. I don't believe you because I have no idea what the fuck you're saying. "All their own"? Is that even an expression? I already answered that three fucking times, but you never bother reading. You always reply as soom as you see my post just to show what a great fanboy you are. You've done good job.

I don't go against people for being stupid enough to buy an Xbox or a PS3, I go against companies like Microsoft for trying to put an end to PC gaming, and developers like Rockstar for cashing in on PC gaming's misfortune and fucking up the competition's chances to actually make and sell good PC games. I read everything you said despite most of it being bullshit, maybe you should to the same instead of reading the first five words and replying.

Except you have no clue as to what "logic" or "fact" even mean. The other point YOU argued about. I was discussing completely different subjects, you went off them every time. I have every time. I think your sources are ether high 24/7 or on drunk 24/7. True. They are releasing edited cinematic trailers full of eye candy to get their customers all hyped up so they buy the game without even knowing what it's like, that way they can't complain about it afterwards because they'd make themselves look like idiots for screaming "GONNA BE DA BEST GAEM EVAR!!11" every day of every week prior to the game's release. You don't know anything about San Andreas or Renderware bro, you've already made that pretty obvious. Anyway GTA V will be GOTY, but that doesn't mean it will deserve it. Hell maybe it will maybe it won't, anything is possible. Wow, impressive. If only you were good at basic math too, cause the history of technology started dating back to around 2.5 milion years ago, when the first human (more or less monkey) invented the first tool.

Yes it's called hype. Many developers have done the same over time and eventually screwed up. Plus let's not forget that the GTA III era games weren't all progress. Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, although good games, were hardly the best in the series. Or even nearly as good as Vice City or San Andreas. That's nice Llama.

Again, shows what you know. What does RDR have to do with this? Hell what does Rockstar have to do with this? We were talking about modding. Yes you read a lot of random bullshit from those morons at GTAF, I get it, you can stop shoving it in my face now. Once more proving that your experience with GTA is nowhere near as vast as you claim, and that you haven't even seen a fraction of the mods that fans have made for GTA III era games along time. Maybe you should spend less time worshipping GTA and more time playing it. Or just avoid it altogether, whatever. Miracle! For once you might actually have a valid point. I believe Rockstar sacrificed LA Noire and Max Payne in the hopes of advancing the development of GTA V while making some extra cash along the way. AKA GTA V will probably share some technical aspects or even gameplay features with Max Payne 3, therefore modding Max Payne 3 might help understand how GTA V will work in the future. Kudos. Yup. Unless Microsoft, Rockstar and every other anti-PC-gaming company go bankrupt or come to their senses, which probably won't happen 100 years from now. Not the second option at least.

The game isn't even out yet, there's no gameplay video of it ether, yet you're damn sure it's the best in the series...

Shows how much you know about GTA. IV modding is limited as hell, I know that from experience, whereas in GTA San Andreas the only aspect that people hadn't modified back when I was still modding the crap out of my game was the world limit. Not to mention IV has a lot of junk / useless / piece of shit / rubbish files leftover from the console version, planned or leftover from GTA San Andreas. San Andreas was nice and clean, it had unused content but almost all of it was functional. By the way:

FYI GTAF is full of idiots. Don't know which is worse, them or saintsrowmods.com. And gaming journalism is nothing more than a bad joke, if you really take what those so called "journalists" say for granted then you're ether a fanboy or just too gullible. So far I'm inclined to think it's the first one. Next, I'm not trying to discredit you (well not on purpose anyway). It's just that half the time your English fucking sucks. Your spelling is fine but your articulation is terrible, and you always use words without knowing what they mean. I've said it before and I'll say it again, read... a mother... fucking... dictionary. Christ. Nobody can speak perfect English but yours is at the bottom of the pit. Because Rockstar can't make proper PC games. Max Payne 3 came close but it still has plenty of issues, and Max Payne 3 is a small game compared to whatGTA V will be based on what I've seen so far. I believe what you're asking is "why shouldn't Rockstar release PC games at all, even if they are bad ports". I've alread answered this twice but you didn't bother reading, and I'm sure you won't bother now ether but I'll say it again: because if Rockstar fucks off, the competition might focus on the PC market, and we'd finally get some decent games. Console players get GTA, we get Saints Row / Mafia / True Crime / w/e. Everybody wins. But no, Rockstar always have to release the shitty PC ports to bank some extra cash, greedy fucks. So? Where's your point dude. YOUR POINT, where is it? Who's worried about that? I swear you're making up stuff and changing the subject just to confuse me... when did we ever talk about PC gaming dying cause a new iPhone or console comes out?

The console release, I hope it's at least a few months before Saints Row 4, if not more. For the PC release, I hope it's never.

You're the one who said all that stuff, want me to donate a pair of glasses too?

There's a dead hooker in that trunk. I know it. Well at least I guessed the car right... again...

True, but where are you getting at? In Engliish if possible...

FYI: Rockstar don't give a damn about what ANYBODY says, customer or otherwise. They never have, they never will, and for good reason. Most of the fans don't give proper feedback and just ask for stupid crap that will only ruin the game. "GUH BRIN BACK TONY VERCETITI!!11 REMAKE GTA VIEC CTY IN HD FOREVER!!11". Yes well like I said earlier, you need to pick up a dictionary. FACTS aren't something you make up by pretending that you and god knows how many people have the same idea, facts are something that was proven (or lied about by a very big number of people, or someone very infulential, if you're into history). Umm... I do, actually. I doubt it would hurt them more if they came clean rather than hide the truth. I mean, the fanboys won't give a shit... and the rest of us would ether apreciate it or doubt Rockstar. I and a decent number of people I know (also GTA or ex-GTA fans) already doubt Rockstar so...

Ok. Consoles aren't made of stone, litteraly or metaphorically (since a third of them break). And they differ from model to model too. Speak for yourself. I'm not talking in anybody's name, maybe you should do the same. Anyway... umm, what? That's what I am doing. That's what pisses these dumbass fanboys off so badly.

I'll be sure to shove this in your face the next time you deny being a fanboy.

You just did. Sorry to hear about it. It's already pretty obvious how thin your research was. FYI: Facts are ether the real things that you back up with proof or the real things that are so obvious even the CIA couldn't contest them, not the subjective fanboy BS. So... they don't make them, but they used to, and they still are? You wanted proof that your articulation sucks, here it is, with the pretty colors and everything. I won't find one. Mainly because we don't have Gamestop here, but also because, PC gaming at least, evolved to the point where CD's or DVD's that you can scratch or lose have become very unpractical. Now I dare you to find me a bigger / better digital distribution service than Steam on PC / Mac. Hell, I doubt you'll even find a better digital distributor on consoles than Origin on PC... I also dare you to compare the best selling game franchises and see which of them sold most. I know you're too lazy to even do a proper research before getting your fanboy on, so allow me to lay down the facts for you. Here's the Top 10, excluding Mario, Pokemon and Tetris, since those existed waaay before gaming even became a serious industry, Tom Clancy's series because they aren't just one series, it's just that the person behind them was smart enough to put his name in the title of every single one, and Final Fantasy because it has more games than I care to or can affor to count and compare. 1. Mario 2. Pokemon 3. The Sims (Over 102 milion copies worldwide, new release every year AVERAGE, not actually every year. It has only a handful of games but more than a ton of expansions that were distributed and costed as much as the games, yet they sold. Mainly a PC series, 90% of sales being for the PC versions) 4. Tetris 5. Final Fantasy 6. Grand Theft Auto (over 80 milion copies worldwide), new release every 2 years average, mainly Sony, Xbox and Windows PC platforms, sold in almost equal amounts on every platform but keep in mind that most PC versions came out a few months after the console versions) 7. Madden NFL (over 70 miion copies worldwide, new release every year since 1988, almost every popular platform, no particularly high sales on any platform) 8. FIFA (over 65 milion copies worldwide, new release every year since 1993, shitload of platforms, but for the most part the Sony platforms' versions seem to have sold best, most sites estimate around 2/5 of the copies were sold on PS3, 1/5 on Xbox, about the same on Nintendo and the last bit on all the other platforms) 9. Legend of Zelda (over 52 milion copies worldwide, new release every 1.5 years average, multiple platforms but all Nintendo,) 10. Tom Clancy's Series I've done my homework. Good luck.

You seem to have an awful lot of that first hand kind of knowledge about about Rockstar and the development of their games. Let me guess, one of your family members works for Rockstar? Oh or maybe you know someone who knows someone who is the second cousin of someone who is best friends with the Housers? Which is it? I'd have asked if you work for Rockstar, but with that English I can't even be sarcastic about it... You said it. But at least it doesn't take up 15 fucking' gigabytes with stupid CGI cutscenes. Anyway glad I'm not the only one who doesn't buy into Rockstar's bullshit (even if I'm the only one who means it). If that game has about as much modding potential as a 40 year old Trabant, no.

You're not making sense again... Happy new year by the way.

Wouldn't it be easier / better to focus on a single game? The one that matters? And not the one that barely sold as many copies as LA Noire? Just sayin'.

Want me to donate some brain cells? You seem to be out of the stuff.

Finally. Yes that's true, but it's also wrong (wrong as in bad). You don't make multiplatform games and focus on some of them more than on the others (or not at all, like Rockstar). That's like making a car for the US, European and Asian markets but build only the ones destined for the US and European market properly, leaving the poor Japs' cars without seatbelts and the possibility of breaking down every five minutes. That's been my point all along. If they don't want to make proper PC games then don't make PC games at all! Let Volition and the others do it!

GTA Complete Pack (I, II, III, VC, SA, IV, EFLC) = 7.49 Euros GTA IV Complete Edition (IV, EFLC) = 8.74 Euros Rockstar knows something I don't... and it clearly isn't math...

Whilst I respect your choice of home gaming system, it is not one I personally own, and thusly I am unable to provide you with support on this matter.

None of that is "obvious", hell I'm still trying to make sense of what you're saying. You can back up your defensive arguments with proof or you can keep being subjective, like all fanboys are. I already showed mine. What's obvious is that Rockstar release games on PC just to bank some extra cash and to screw up the competition's plans (comptetition that, for the most part, actually want to deliver a well made PC game, like Volition or 2K Czech).