Thomas. Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It seems that many people including the Scottish Labour Political Party are wanting a Scottish breakaway from the United Kingdom. Wendy Alexander, the leader of the Scottish Labour party wants a referendum (Public Poll) to be brought back a few years, this means Scottish independence will be closer than expected. I am against the Scottish Breakaway thing personally on numerous things: Scotland gets plenty of Back-up from London and other areas of the United Kingdom Scotland is part of the Island of Britain Will bring the UK's Economy Down A new Currency could be foreseeable If this does happen then once I leave school I'll probably go back to live in York or something. I have always fancied living in York because I was born there and I used to live there for four years. Stories about this :: FROM BBC.CO.UK Story 1 Story 2 Story 3 Story 4 Story 5 Story 6 (From August 2007) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLlamaLlama Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Then you'll all get the Euro.... Which just sucks. The thing is, you're pretty much on your own if you claim independence (fancy that) but yeah, like, economically , military, and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 I don't want to be part of Scotland if they become independent, it isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 This would be retarded if Scotland left us, I don't really think they'd do too well as an independent country. ITT: Confuse Americans by saying "British Isles", "Great Britain", and "United Kingdom" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 England...Great Britain...The United Kingdom...Holland...The Netherlands...Germany...Deutschland...stop with the different names! Well I suppose you'd say it would be Scotland's loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yeah, Scotland is quite a small area of land (But since I have been up to Edinburgh, Stirling, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Inverness, Orkney Islands it is massive considering that it looks small from maps). But yeah it is too small, the population is too small (5,000,000) and we have a British Government what has been f*cked up along with the Scottish government what is also f*cked up. Right now I prefer Gordon Brown over Alex Salmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris. Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Scotland wouldn't fare well as an independent country? If only William Wallace were here right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 Funnily enough it was the english what killed the Scottish Royal Family. Scotland used to be independent (before 1700) but they could cope because Scotland only had half the population than what it currently does, it just wouldn't cope now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 England...Great Britain...The United Kingdom...Holland...The Netherlands...Germany...Deutschland...stop with the different names! LOL. It's actually worse with the whole Holland/Netherlands thing. Because Holland is actually a region of The Netherlands. See Holland, usage of the word on wikipedia Those British terms basically just mean different countries within the UK. Wikipedia helps explain with this useful diagram Basically, the official name of our country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - this is ALL the sovereign states. This is what is usually shortened to the United Kingdom, or just, the UK. The "British Isles" refers to all of the United Kingdom and all of Ireland. The "United Kingdom" is Great Britain and Northern Ireland "Great Britain" contains England, Scotland, and Wales "Ireland" contains the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland the "Channel Islands" are Jersey and Guernsey (there are also a few other smaller, non-official islands such as Alderney and Sark) That's probably all the terms you'll ever hear. Now you know what they all mean. To be honest, most Brits get confused by this anyway. This is actually one of the reasons I don't like using the term British, because if you call someone a Brit, they could actually be from one of three countries. Most people from Wales will call themselves Welsh, most people from Scotland will call themselves Scottish... however, in England, most of us will call ourselves British (Brits). But I don't, I prefer to say I'm English, I don't want to be associated with the Scots and Welsh thank you very much, I am from neither of those two nationalities, I'm just from England That's why I choose to display the cross of St George as my flag on here, rather than the Union Jack. But that's just my preference, I still notice a lot of people here choose to display the Union Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) I chose the Union Jack because I was born in England, live in Scotland and that were are in the United Kingdom. To confuse everyone this is the actual name of the United Kingdom (It says that on my Passport): The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Head of the Commonwealth countries. The Country of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who have adopted the Great British Pound as their official currency and are part of the European Union. Pre-1945 Name is: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland along with The Great British Empire of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pacific Islands and Hong Kong. Pre-1777 Name is: The Great British Empire of the Eastern North American Coastline. A lot of Confusion with those names above . Edited May 11, 2008 by Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris. Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Thank god for AP European History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dont know if u know but the Scottish were independent for many centuries and u said the same thing about Ireland and know there one of the best countries in Europe. Euro does no t suck and whats ur thing in doing everything different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 I know the Euro doesn't suck, I have a 2 Euro cent sitting on my windowsill waiting to be used, I actually bought a whole load of Euros to go to Amsterdam earlier this year however, the flight got cancelled and we had to go from New York to Edinburgh instead of New York to Amsterdam. The Scottish were independent many centuries ago but that was when the Scottish Population was below 1,000,000 and could be run by the King or Queen. I think you realise that the laws of Scotland and England back in 1300 were all the same apart from a few. It was messed up because there was a war between England and Scotland over Queen Mary of Scotland's death which was caused by Queen Elizabeth I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 (edited) But i think that scotland could be independent why couldnt they i ask u Edited May 18, 2008 by JROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 They wouldn't be able to fund anything, they get money directly from London and other major cities in the UK. Inflation would be through the roof if Scotland is to become independent because the Economy would be dropped massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott. Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I think it would be quite good if the scottish left them. Would be more rivalry which is always quite funny. I think scotland is good enough to become independent. I mean if someone like Wales were to become independent I think they would like disappear because they are not big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 well i think that the scottish people can do an effort and become Independent and i dont know about the economy but i think its the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas. Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 It's also a crisis to the rest of the UK's economy. the Price of Bread will go up again if Scotland become independant, not only in Scotland but in England and Wales too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROCK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I think u need scotland more than scotland needs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLlamaLlama Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 ^ Please explain that... really. The UK's economy, is , as it stands, well founded... so why would there be so much disruption should scotland feel the need to become independant? [metaphor about teet suckling here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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