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i think picture no. 10 is a SWAT/N.O.O.S.E helicopter, and it looks like it has some missile launchers on it! about the door thing, i don't think we'll be able to bust doors, it's just a cutscene, what's the big deal? 2-6, if you look at the first picture in the trailer, it looks like the mirror can be reflected, so we also be able to check the rearview mirror

Good idea BUT If there will be a Rocket Launcher in GTA 4, from where will Niko get his rockets(ammo) for the RL ? he can`t carry too many in that duffel bag ... well, actually some launchers can be reattached, and can be put in some big army case/big suitcase i don't know, maybe Niko can store them in the car trunk or something and one other thing, can Claude, Tommy and CJ put the launchers in their pocket? no, but they put them anyway because R* don't have any other storage without wasting too much space. so it doesn't have to be that realistic, but i like it more if they put 'em in a bag or do you have another idea? Yes I have, NO Rocket Launcher ... I know that Niko could store'em in the trunk but is ennoying everytime you want to fire a rocket, you have to go to the trunk and get it from there ... nah, i'd better store 'em in a trunk than not to have 'em at all if they did have those, what are you guys suggesting? trunk? picnic bag perhaps? yeah, i have a feeling that they wouldn't add a rocket launcher that easy, they said Niko is living like a real criminal, does criminals have RPG's? i don't think so, rpg is like a terrorists things, not criminals

Good idea BUT If there will be a Rocket Launcher in GTA 4, from where will Niko get his rockets(ammo) for the RL ? he can`t carry too many in that duffel bag ... well, actually some launchers can be reattached, and can be put in some big army case/big suitcase i don't know, maybe Niko can store them in the car trunk or something and one other thing, can Claude, Tommy and CJ put the launchers in their pocket? no, but they put them anyway because R* don't have any other storage without wasting too much space. so it doesn't have to be that realistic, but i like it more if they put 'em in a bag or do you have another idea?

yeah, you're right, the helmet thing's not that new, it's just, in SA, you have to wear 'em everytime, even when you walk, that's kinda stupid, this time we want to see if it can be removed, and we'll still be able to wear it everytime you get on a bike maybe a police'll write you a ticket if you don't wear one, just like in R* Bully oh, and the tollbooth thing, it's almost the same, i'm trying to figure out if we have to pay to get through it

i don't think so man, they are wasting space, especially in LC, i mean real new york itself doesn't have one right? if it's some other country, okay, maybe i would want that, but why LC? there's no point putting a countyside in the middle of a big city

boy, you bump a really old topic yes, they might already known that right now

i know, the bullet effects are are also improved and enchaced graphically, i love too see more of the realistic bullet holes , and maybe if we didn't shoot a car in the gas tank, it didn't always blow up, because you know, that's how they're supposed to be.

why not? driver has that kind of curse. remember driver 1-2? that is two coolest criminal driving games, but driv3r sucked a**!!! no, i don't think so. rockstar already make several hits, the games never sucked, and i have such hope for GTA IV. however, if this really happens, not just R* that suffering, but take-two and microsoft who already support them not Sony though, i don't know if you Sony fans already heard this, but on E3, they said it themselves, without GTA, PS3 would still win the race, that is like, the most regrettable things they ever said, because now R* has turn to Microsoft and bill gates said if xbox 360 will win, it depends on the games, the hits in the xbox 360.

what about the gamerscore we got? what if collecting hidden package(or whatever it is they'll put on there) give you like 100 or maybe even 200! maybe there's something like: -break into 200 different cars:100 -completion 100%:150 -kill 20 people using knife: 20 -kill 100 people using barehands:50 -complete all major missions and side missions:100 -aquire all weapons in the trunk:50 -use all weapons during the game:50 -all girlfriends dated:50 -intro mission:5 -ending mission completed:20 -hidden packages completed:150 -all taxi missions:5 -all ambulance missions:5 -all n.o.o.s.e missions:5 -all vigilante missions:5 -destroy 25 helicopter using a shotgun in multiplayer:50 -kill 100 people in multiplayer:50 -all clothes aquired: 50 that's all i could think of

yes, i think it's going to be very different, R* said it in the 1st trailer, even though undirectly by Niko, saying that as a part of the story: "things will be different" maybe i you want to switch cars, there's a choice to move all your weapon on the garage, or maybe you could put 'em in the bag and then move 'em

It's not all about the money dude. It's about the fans and what the fans want. It's about appealing to a mature crowd of gamers, and promoting games as the new most popular form of entertainment. It's also about telling a story in a most beautiful form of art. Not everyone in this world is greedy and selfish. Sorry, that's a little off topic. Yes I hope there will be a new GTA but I'm just wondering if they will carry over all of the features of GTA IV. And saying what else can be added to an already perfect game. Don't fix it if it's not broke. well, i don't know about fans, i mean, i'm sure a good company or developer always loved their fans, but let's face facts now, for all i know R* is a huge company with many staff. these staffs, they either want just the money, or: these guys are very few people, trying to entertain fans! trying to make a good game, trying to make us experience what they'd experienced(i meant the old gamers of course) i know R* care about fans, but, let's all face it here, it's reality with only one thing to survive: money(this is very offtopic of course) GTA will continue, GTA IV is just another beginning for al of us, and i hope they will keep expanding it and move it so close to a real criminal world

there's not going to be Tommy, i mean there's a huge chance for him to never reappear don't you hear the news??? Dan Houser make it perfectly clear that most of the characters couldn't make any reappearrance, either they are dead, missing, rich and happily ever after, or maybe even get poor R* said it themselves that there's a huge chance this is going to be a whole new story and i think, it's not just you that ever post this kind of topic, all of us would love Tommy to make a reappearance, it's just he's old, rich, what else? no more story about Tommy, he had his ending, i hate to break it to all of you, all of us Tommy's fan really, but Tommy Vercetti IS DEAD!!!!! sorry, that's not the way i think, but R* made that point, even though not directly boy, i love to confront that kind of thing to any Britney's fans, but not this, i love Tommy V! i hate to see him gone as much as you

from what vision? they look exactly different! where'd you get this picture about them being the same, pardon me, but with all due respect i don't think you have any good evidence to proving that car is the same to a feltzer sorry if that crossed the line, anyway, that car could be anything convertable, there's so many car in SA that are open just like that. back on topic, i think the bag should be an alternative for losing wanted level, i mean if you can keep some clothes inside 'em, you could just put 'em on, and maybe lost a couple of star huh? that'll make it easier right? you don't have to get home to try on clothes, and you could lose some heat! what do you guys think

burnout? really? burnout is the 2nd most unrealistic (in my opinion) car crashing game in history, sure there's a lot of crash effects and parts going, and it's good, i just hate one thing from burnout, the car chrashes too easy, even a car coming out from a cereal box wouldn't crash that fast. i like Dirt though, the graphic rocks

Thats a good idea and a good point, would be fun. you're right, a convertable could be one of those things which gave GTA colors, like respect or muscle in SA or gambling, you know, that's two little features that gave me a reason to play SA more, even when i already complete the game are there any highways with tollbooths in the real NY? because i have never go there, and if there is, where would they lead you to? i'm just making up some theory about where they might lead you to in LC

can someone get me a scan by the way? i must've missed it maybe if we fall off a bike, the damage would be reduced by wearing a helmet. i was wondering if we can buy a motorcross helmet, that'll be good, i always fall off from a sanchez

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he played donald, the FBI? i'm surprised you missed him why does it matter? the guy in the kitchen was just some guy, maybe Niko's main enemy would be great if it voiced by a pro

anyway, i know this is a stupid question. but in the previous GTA games, do you ever see an artwork with the main character in it? i know it doesn't make sense, but could Niko be another character? you know, the "not main character one" Yep, San Andreas had two, however it can be argued they are of other people, but in depth they are the main character: 1. http://www.thegtaplace.com/image.php?img=s.../splash_bg2.jpg 2. http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/sanandre...th/splash04.jpg 3. He could also the be the front guy in this on but thats more doubtable. really? some say that the second one was maddog, but i don't know, these picture are not as clear as Niko's is there's no artwork of CJ with his very first clothes(tanktop, denim old blue jeans w/ adidas shoes)?

And i'll tell you again. Do more w/ your life. Says me who sleeps until the afternoon, then has a shower, spends the rest of the day with his girlfreind, then eats for abit, goes on the pc, goes to sleep, and the cycle continues. But meh, it's up to you whether you think it's weird. i think the only difference you refer to is girlfriend right??? everybody always love Tommy V, simple answer, he rocks!!!

i don't think they are avoiding big actors, they're just looking for a voice match, so we might not seen any big actors that's probably a debateable answer man, and you forgot one guy: Ray Liotta man! no one better than him voicing Tommy V! Ok, sorry I forgot poor little Ray. Truth is I never heard of him. Well I've heard of him, but never seen any of his movies or anything. He's good. Never knew he did Tommy's voice, other wise I would have mentioned him. are you kidding?? Goodfellas??? Cop Land(the name itself is a mission in VC)??? Smoking Aces??? you have to see them! it's briliant movies dude!! yes, that is so true, rockstar has taken such a big risk, finding a matching voice actors itself need money and time. this GTA IV will be huge!!!

really? i've never tried it either way i'll not cheat ever , especially since the cheat itself ruin the save game

i don't think they are avoiding big actors, they're just looking for a voice match, so we might not seen any big actors that's probably a debateable answer man, and you forgot one guy: Ray Liotta man! no one better than him voicing Tommy V!

If you look in the background of the first pic, you can see a fire escape... I know I know, nothing new.. But can you climb them? What about ladders? i know, but they are too common in new york/liberty city, if Niko can climb ladders, we probably have heard it by now good eye though, i thought no one had seen that

are you crazy? some of 'em belongs to the goverment, some of 'em are made by illegal merchants, and some of 'em are made by terrorist, i don't think they need a license(except for the legal ones, i don't know about that)