tilly Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) But people usually get into the mainstream market from having an ability to make good music from a skill. I completely disagree with you. I don't know even how to start to express how incorrect you are. Roughly 90% (my guess) of mainstream is of untalented, unskilled, sex symbols with no compositional ability. The only reason why they are famous is because they have good record labels which can pay for good composers, lyricists, producers, and publicists, which are the only skilled people involved in my opinion. EDIT: Johan Reinholdz Kiko Loreiro and Rafael Bittencourt (Double picture!) Edited February 16, 2009 by tilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Depends what music you like. What the HELL does that have to do with whether or not it takes talent to make it into mainstream entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) You have to have people that like your kind music, and appreciate your ability to play it well. Edited February 16, 2009 by Twisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 No, you don't. You have to have big record execs who shove you down the public's throat so that they feel they have to listen to you because you're "cool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 That's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Like Slipknot. EGGGGHHHHGHGHHGHGH..... THAT is a band full of members with no talent. With the exception of Joey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I like a few songs, but that's all, everything else sucks. Pisses me off how they have 2 other 'percussionists', no fucking point whatsoever, as well as the other thousand members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Van Halen Derek Trucks (holy shit ) Edited February 18, 2009 by tilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 This guy here. +1 internets to anyone who actually knows who he is. SOMEHOW I forgot this guy, too. Sexy AND can play pretty well. That's all for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonSkull Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jimmy Hendrix was another great guitarist. It pisses me off every time they say he died from a drug overdose. The truth is the paramedics arrived and strapped him face up on the stretcher. He vomited in the back of the ambulance and choked to death on his own vomit. The paramedics killed him but they saved the hospital from embarrassment by saying drug overdose. If you ever have a friend who is stoned or drunk fall asleep make sure they are face down you could save their life. RIP Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Inferno Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jimmy Hendrix was another great guitarist. It pisses me off every time they say he died from a drug overdose. The truth is the paramedics arrived and strapped him face up on the stretcher. He vomited in the back of the ambulance and choked to death on his own vomit. The paramedics killed him but they saved the hospital from embarrassment by saying drug overdose. If you ever have a friend who is stoned or drunk fall asleep make sure they are face down you could save their life.RIP Jimmy Wonderful, you're telling us to kill our addicted friends. On their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonSkull Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wonderful, you're telling us to kill our addicted friends. On their side. No. If the person is lying on their side or back they can vomit in their state and not wake up. People lying on their side can and will roll onto their back. Always place the body face down and cock the head off to one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jimmy Hendrix was another great guitarist. It pisses me off every time they say he died from a drug overdose. The truth is the paramedics arrived and strapped him face up on the stretcher. He vomited in the back of the ambulance and choked to death on his own vomit. The paramedics killed him but they saved the hospital from embarrassment by saying drug overdose. If you ever have a friend who is stoned or drunk fall asleep make sure they are face down you could save their life.RIP Jimmy Spell the guys name right first before you comment on his death. How would you even know this anyway, just asking for some sources yano? Either way, the paramedics did not kill him, he had a drug addiction and it's his own fault that he died and I'm saying this as a fan that has an unimaginable amount of respect for him, so don't take this like I'm dissing him or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Jimmy Hendrix was another great guitarist. It pisses me off every time they say he died from a drug overdose. The truth is the paramedics arrived and strapped him face up on the stretcher. He vomited in the back of the ambulance and choked to death on his own vomit. The paramedics killed him but they saved the hospital from embarrassment by saying drug overdose. If you ever have a friend who is stoned or drunk fall asleep make sure they are face down you could save their life.RIP Jimmy Wonderful, you're telling us to kill our addicted friends. On their side. Yeah, actually. At the very least, the face must be going sideways. Otherwise they very well could suffocate WITHOUT throwing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonSkull Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Spell the guys name right first before you comment on his death.How would you even know this anyway, just asking for some sources yano? Either way, the paramedics did not kill him, he had a drug addiction and it's his own fault that he died and I'm saying this as a fan that has an unimaginable amount of respect for him, so don't take this like I'm dissing him or anything. Oh excuse me since you must have such a wonderful spell checker it does uncommon names. However James Marshall Hendrix, died in London under circumstances which have never been fully explained. His girlfriend Monika Dannemann was the one who publicly claimed that Hendrix was alive when placed in the back of the ambulance. Police and ambulance statements said that there was no one but Hendrix in the flat, and not only was he dead when they arrived on the scene, but had been dead for some time. BBC TV program 24 Hours, stated that they believed Hendrix had committed suicide. Dannemann said that Hendrix had taken a few of her sleeping pills and had drank some red wine before going to bed. Later after her death, her boyfriend, Uli Jon Roth, always said he suspected foul play. There are numerous people who have contrived "murder conspiracy" theories but the bottom line was Hendrix died not of drug overdose but an idiot who didn't know how to position a body. Everything I told you above is a matter of what "sources" you prefer to believe and let's face it, you only ask for sources to be able to shoot the sources down. Go buy your own bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 If all these people say so many different things, who the fuck are you to tell us what the bottom line is? He died WEELLLLLL before you were even born.... So you really don't have much right to be spitting "facts" about his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Spell the guys name right first before you comment on his death.How would you even know this anyway, just asking for some sources yano? Either way, the paramedics did not kill him, he had a drug addiction and it's his own fault that he died and I'm saying this as a fan that has an unimaginable amount of respect for him, so don't take this like I'm dissing him or anything. Oh excuse me since you must have such a wonderful spell checker it does uncommon names. However James Marshall Hendrix, died in London under circumstances which have never been fully explained. His girlfriend Monika Dannemann was the one who publicly claimed that Hendrix was alive when placed in the back of the ambulance. Police and ambulance statements said that there was no one but Hendrix in the flat, and not only was he dead when they arrived on the scene, but had been dead for some time. BBC TV program 24 Hours, stated that they believed Hendrix had committed suicide. Dannemann said that Hendrix had taken a few of her sleeping pills and had drank some red wine before going to bed. Later after her death, her boyfriend, Uli Jon Roth, always said he suspected foul play. There are numerous people who have contrived "murder conspiracy" theories but the bottom line was Hendrix died not of drug overdose but an idiot who didn't know how to position a body. Everything I told you above is a matter of what "sources" you prefer to believe and let's face it, you only ask for sources to be able to shoot the sources down. Go buy your own bullets. No, I just fancy knowing how to spell peoples names properly, expecially before I comment about their death, disrespectful, who ever it is.. Spaz kind of took care of the rest of what you said for me. But yeah, there's so many stories, you don't know which one is true, and what's the point of dwelling on something that's happened over 30 years ago, you weren't even alive then, neither was I, nor were many people on here, so we're best just leaving it. This is a topic for discussing guitarists, not theories on how they died, etc.. Edited February 28, 2009 by Twisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderFan Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hendrix didn't die of an overdose, he died from choking on his own vomit (from getting high). Let's see, there are a few that I admire such as Timo Tolkki, Fredrik Thordendal, Devin Townsend, Luca Turilli, etc... I guess my favorite would be Yngwie Malmsteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Oh yeah, I forgot to say, I didn't say that he died of an overdose, I just said that he had a drug addiction, meaning his death was his own fault. If he wasn't a druggie, he probably wouldn't of vomited. Don't go blaming shit on a paramedic..where's the proof that he was alive when the ambulance came? Edited February 28, 2009 by Twisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) I guess my favorite would be Yngwie Malmsteen. Yngwie's master: People say Yngwie was the first to do neo-classical, Roth was doing it in the '60s. Oh yeah, I forgot to say, I didn't say that he died of an overdose, I just said that he had a drug addiction, meaning his death was his own fault.If he wasn't a druggie, he probably wouldn't of vomited. Don't go blaming shit on a paramedic..where's the proof that he was alive when the ambulance came? The paramedic should be the one saving his life, not letting him die because of some dumb reason. EDIT: Uli Jon Roth (36 scalloped frets) Edited February 28, 2009 by tilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Oh yeah, I forgot to say, I didn't say that he died of an overdose, I just said that he had a drug addiction, meaning his death was his own fault.If he wasn't a druggie, he probably wouldn't of vomited. Don't go blaming shit on a paramedic..where's the proof that he was alive when the ambulance came? The paramedic should be the one saving his life, not letting him die because of some dumb reason. 1. Where's the proof that he was alive when the ambulance came? 2. He was a drug addict, that's what took his life, not some paramedic forgetting to turn him on his side. There was a much bigger picture. Edited February 28, 2009 by Twisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 1. Where's the proof that he was alive when the ambulance came?2. He was a drug addict, that's what took his life, not some paramedic forgetting to turn him on his side. There was a much bigger picture. Every story I've read of his death says that he was either alive until he got into the ambulance or that he died in the hospital. And if that's true, diabetic people should be deprived of insulin because they are diabetic. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) That does not make sense, you can't help being diabetic, but you can help being a drug addict, they're two very different things. I found this btw. "Dannemann claimed in her original testimony that Hendrix the evening before, unknown to her, had taken nine of her prescribed Vesperax sleeping pills. According to the doctor who initially attended to him, Hendrix had asphyxiated (literally drowned) in his own vomit, mainly red wine. For years, Dannemann publicly claimed that Hendrix was alive when placed in the back of the ambulance. However, her comments about that morning were often contradictory, varying from interview to interview. Police and ambulance statements reveal that there was no one but Hendrix in the flat, and not only was he dead when they arrived on the scene, but had been dead for some time." Edited February 28, 2009 by Twisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 I guess the mystery will never be solved. Michael Hedges Joesf Glaude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarrem Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I can't believe how lulzy this topic got. I kind of lol'd when you said Kurt Cobain is influential, Connor, you're more influential than Kurt Cobain to me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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