Harwood Butcher

The way your wording is, it sounds like you're saying you have no choice, that it's just your beliefs. I wasn't asking if they should have rights, I was asking who should have gotten rights first, which was actually a question for Gerard...not you.

Bold: Then why are you asking me? Let me ask you something. Do you think that homosexuals should have been given rights before african americans or women?

Bold: They didn't do anything though. That officer was actually put on probation for the shit he was doing and possibly fired.

Ok...then that means I'm not a poser. I don't go along with the crowd, I don't give a shit who uses them or how many people do use them. How many times do I have to tell you that I don't give a shit what people think? Check out this bullshit.

LOL, you're talking about "Long before laws were passed, long before the Bible said anything about it."...and that was a long fucking time ago. Do you really think they knew who was infertile then??? I don't think so. You're starting to mix and match this shit to try and make a point, but that's not needed.

LOL 100 - "Ten, Ten...Tentententententententen"

Well see, now you're switching it up and asking why people decided or declared it is "wrong" instead of why it's not "normal". The reason people believed it to be wrong was because reproduction doesn't work that way. Simple as that. They weren't as worried about "love" as people are now. Yeah, you didn't say that they can't get married because you're not the one that could decided that, but THINKING that they shouldn't is still attacking their beliefs if we're using your logic of attacking one's beliefs. All we've been doing is stating what we THINK about your beliefs/views and you're saying we're attacking them.

Aborting for stem cell research is wrong, but if the baby was aborted because the female was raped and they then use it for stem cell research, then I don't really see any problem with that. Those fetuses might not have been born, but they were still able to help out the human race.

I was curious if anyone has any idea on how a live webcast could be mobile. I'm assuming there is some kind of phone out there that already does this, but I'm talking on a larger scale. The only way I thought it could be possible is with a laptop that has one of those crazy ass wireless router things. I'm not even sure what those things are called. Any thoughts?

HOLY SHIT, the last time I posted here was on page 42. Mudvayne - Not Falling

My skateboard's tail got to the point that when I ollied there would be pieces chipping off. These weren't small pieces either, grip tape and shit was coming off with it. My tail is jagged and really short. You guys keep telling me all this shit like the boards and shoes last long...but then why the hell aren't mine? The only possibly reason is because of me stopping on my tail.

That's a little different. You don't go to the church to get a divorce and even that is a one time thing that could be forgiven because it only happens once (per marriage ). Gay marriage is a constant unless there is a divorce. It's like trying to be forgiven for stealing as you're pick-pocketing the priest. If there is a branch of Christianity for homosexuals...then don't you think they should be apart of that branch?

Yes, they can do that, but I believe those marrying them in court might have to be Christian as well or, if not, might be coincidentally and also inadvertently causing them to sin. But that sort of brings the problem back up as to where they'll get married...Vegas I guess. I could be wrong about that though. Being a Christian that follows a path that constantly goes against the Christian faith might not be considered a Christian or they'd be considered a subculture of the Christian faith.

I don't care about a "razor tailed board", but mine grinded down...to no tail. No tail = no pop. Your boards look kind of fucked up. What happened to the trucks?

Being attracted to the same sex is one thing, but getting married is involving the church 100%. Not only that but most of the things people do that are against the Christian faith, such as stealing, could be forgiven because it could be a one time thing and that's it. Getting married as a gay couple is a continuous thing and is a sin (obviously not a horrible one because it didn't make the top 10 list ). Therefore not only is the couple sinning, but also is causing those marrying them to sin. Allowing a gay Christian couple to marry is inadvertently forcing another to sin...and I don't think that's right.

I'm not sure if you're asking me, but I personally think that gay Christians are going against their religion, which I don't think is right. Although, I think they should be allowed to marry if they want to. Why join a group if you don't agree with their beliefs?

Are you telling me killing animals isn't considered abuse? What the fuck is then? God said we could use the animals for our needs, (eating, making into tools, etc.) But clearly not to torture them or do dog fighting, etc. G2G Again...how the hell is killing not torture??? Yes, you were called some names, which shouldn't happen. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're forgetting that we too have our own opinions. Thinking you're an idiot...is an opinion.

You don't attack them...hmmm. Well homosexuals don't have the same beliefs as you...but you're saying that they can't get married. So you're attacking their beliefs. What beliefs of yours am I attacking?

Are you telling me killing animals isn't considered abuse? What the fuck is then?

I didn't say it should (Though I do believe it should ), just said that was my reasoning. Ok, well you just said it now. Good job. (This is what I believe:) God did not create women to do it with women and men to marry men. He created Adam and Eve, intending it to always be Men and Women. (Sorry if I seem a little forward, these are just my opinions, not meant to insult any others) Ok, if it's supposed to be men and women, then you go by your own beliefs and marry a women (provided that one would actually want to marry you). Do you listen to other religious views from Jews or Muslims?

Uhhh...NO. Things like, "He closed Guantanamo bay and wants to let the prisoners go free" is not a fact, opinion or anything. Yes, he's PLANNING on closing it but HE IS NOT letting them run free. know your facts before you try to state an opinion. It's like you're living in your own little world.

H O L Y S H I T I'm not expecting much out of Obama myself, but damn, your reasons are ridiculous and pathetic. So you don't think that women should have that right? Why? Don't get me wrong, I'm against abortion, but I don't really care what other people do if it doesn't concern me and I don't think anyone else should either. It's not like Obama is telling people to have abortions, he's simply giving them the choice. I did not hear of this, but did you ever think that he's doing this in places that might be suffering from the lack of nutrition and is preventing more people from suffering? What the hell kind of reason is that? Ok then, "George Bush and Dick Cheney"...OH MY GOSH! "BUSH AND DICK" SOUNDS LIKE A SEXUAL REFERENCE. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WITH THOSE NAMES RUNNING OUR COUNTRY!!!11!!11!1!1!! "Wow" indeed. That must mean he's a terrorist...I see your point completely. It's not like he's letting them run loose. He's just handling all that shit in court to give them their rights. OH FUCK!!! He wants to help the working class? That's crazy. ...Do you even know what for? Why do you want war? We can't stop terrorism. It's like trying to stop rain from hitting the ground. And...? What, at being president? NO SHIT, he just started.

Yes I do. I started with a generic board and it had the word "Tattoo" on the grip tape. I got on the board so that when I looked down the word "Tattoo" wasn't upside down. Other than generic boards though, the tail is usually wider, which could be hard to determine some times. It's very obvious with my World Industries board. Check out the Uber light board. It's constructed a lot better than the average board. (Nate turned me on to this one)

For those that don't find it normal think that way because of their own personal beliefs and views. They might have been raised a certain way that influenced their opinion on that. As for our culture's social norms, they were mainly constructed during the birth of the US government. Some of which were reflected from the UK and other parts of the world. As cultures get older though, these social norms begin to fluctuate. This whole thing with gay marriage is a fluctuation and it probably won't ever be steady, but it will be more commonly accepted as time goes on. This is sort of like how divorce was socially unacceptable at one point because the structure of one's family was one of the most important things in life, but as the structure of the family grew, divorce was more commonly accepted.

The tail of a skateboard is wider than the nose. So I wouldn't need to buy two tailbones. If I wanted to, I could by a tailbone and a nosebone, but that's not needed. Yeah, I messed up the cost of a board every two years, but from what I just said, $30-$40 for tailbones or $70 for a skateboard. I might be getting an "uber light" board and I'd much rather buy tailebones than a new board and new grip tape. I would have to re-build my board and I don't want to do that more than I'd have to. If using tailbones prevents that, which I think it will, then I'll do it that way...provided that I actually find some fucking tailbones in a store somewhere or online. I've had no luck yet. Yeah, I'm doing this for fun, but the "uber light" board is constructed better and is almost impossible to snap, but the tail will still grind down. Again, this is better financially.