Angry Gorilla Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I was lurking on the internet when I discovered this interesting article, and I thought I'd share it with you guys. There are hundreds of applications out there from spyware cleaners to built-in browser features that eliminate cookies on the spot, and even let you set cookie policies on your computer regarding what can be stored in your machine, and for how long. I'm assuming that if you're here reading this post, you already know all of the dangers of cookies on your computer. In all honesty, I don't seriously believe that they're the most dangerous form of movement or web tracking, but they can definitely be used to monitor more movements than a person should feel comfortable with. What if there was a type of cookie that could: Stay on your computer for an unlimited amount of time Store 100 kb of data by default, with an unlimited max Couldn't be deleted by your browser Send previous visit information and history, by default, without your permission Okay… That's a pretty scary cookie. As it is right now, the cookies we're so deadly afraid of can store a maximum of 4 kb of information, are manage by your browser, and by default have reasonable defaults and restrictions. This type of cookie exists on 98% of global computers, across all operating systems. it's the Adobe Flash Player. <script type="text/javascript"> <script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"> The Adobe Flash Player maintains proprietary cookies called Local Shared Objects or LSO's. LSO's are capable of storing 100 kb's of information for an indefinite amount of time by default. When you clear your browser history in Internet Explorer, Firefox or Opera on Windows, Linux, or OS X LSO's are not cleared from Adobe's local repository. In fact, all the information in those cookies will remain indefinitely until they're removed by the issuing website, or by you via a cumbersome and ridiculous process. Unfortunately, I haven't even explained the worst of it. There's no easy way to tell what sites are using flash cookies to track your movements. There's no list, and there doesn't have to be a flash GUI or visible application for flash cookies to be present. In fact, most websites using flash for user tracking don't create GUI's, toolbars, or applications that you can actually see in your browser while browsing the site. Many times a tiny flash module, 2 kb in size or less is loaded into your browser on every page visit in the same way a gif, jpg or other image is. The whole purpose of this tiny, invisible flash module might be to simply record the page request, and your username or other session variables. Alright, so now you're sufficiently convinced that this is creepy stuff. Let's talk about how to get rid of it? Lame as it might be, the Flash Player has no ability to delete cookies. And as I've already said, your browser can't help you out. It doesn't even know these cookies exist! Most of the privacy settings for Adobe Flash have be accessed via a flash application on Adobe's website called the Adobe Flash Player Settings Manager. If you want to access the Settings Manager, you can do so here. In fact, open it up now and let's take a look. If you've clicked the link above, then you're looking at the Flash Player Settings Manager, and a list of all the sites currently storing information on the cookies stored on your computer. Looking at my list, I see over 100 websites that have been accessing the same cookie for the last year (the last time I formatted my computer). Some of them are storing only 1kb of information, some are storing the full 100 kb's. On my own computer, I see that my bank is storing flash information despite the fact that there isn't a single flash application visible when I log in to check my balance. I see Youtube, CNN, Microsoft, Rotten Tomatoes and a ton more! To delete all the Flash Cookies currently being stored on your machine: Go to the Settings Manager (Website Storage Settings) Go to the far-right tab Click "Delete all sites" To prevent websites from storing any more information on your computer: Go to Settings Manager Click the Second Tab from the left (Global Storage Settings) Set the Storage Settings slider to None Uncheck "Allow Third Party Flash Content to store data on your computer There are several other "privacy" settings on the other tabs, but don't be persuaded. Most of those privacy settings have to do with whether or not websites can access your microphone and webcam. There isn't a single cookie option on any of the privacy tabs on the Settings Manager. Adobe, as a global leader in browser technology (a 98% computer market share), has a responsibility to make Privacy Options easily accessible from within the Player application itself. They also have a responsibility to set reasonble default limitations. It's ridiculous that they would enable websites to store cookies indefinitely, and in such large sizes. Is Adobe intentionally allowing websites to abuse privacy? You tell me. Comments Welcome. 'Source' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damjan Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Nice,may try this sometimes. (will be trying on flash games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarrem Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Nice,may try this sometimes.(will be trying on flash games) Try what? 0.o That is interesting, the sites I found in that list are really sketchy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoLuTioN Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 That is interesting, the sites I found in that list are really sketchy . x2, Deleted the history and Bookmarked the link! @Dame: Didn't really read through it did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I only found YouTube on my list... still deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) This doesnt surprise me lol... but big deal, its a cookie that tells some sites what sites you've been on. Unless the site its telling is your boss, and youve been on pr0n or something, I don't see what the big deal is...sure invasion of privacy (if you wanna call it that), but you've likely agreed to this happening through a terms and conditions / EULA when you installed flash... edit: i just went through the list, they are just sites ive been to..mousebreaker, youtube, etc...and the biggest usage is 50kb thats for like 1 or 2 things. AND the max allowed is 100KB by default, if it exceeds this size it'l give you a warning...like i said, only 50kb for a few sites, it'd be no more than 5mb of data overall (probably a lot less) Edited October 18, 2008 by WRX22B1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I had a relatively small list.... And the article fails to mention that you can CHANGE that default size limit. Not a big deal. Saw no porn sites or anything. Yes. Paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deji Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I had a total of... 0 I keep my PC well maintained and secure (Even though I deactivate AVG to save memory and never bother to use AVG, I get rid of the viruses myself ) But I don't know how I managed to not have these. I never knew they existed, although I do clean out my cookies manually on a regular basis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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