Chris Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Oh ok, OPSM2 fucked up then? Still kinda strange that Vic is younger and is the head :/ BTW if you make a post which is sarcastic, but isn't immediately obvious, just put [/sarcasm] at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Oh ok, OPSM2 f***ed up then? Still kinda strange that Vic is older and is the head :/ Yeah thats how me and Adriaan got into that fight. He was listening to them or something. Calling me stupid. Dissing my site. BTW if you make a post which is sarcastic, but isn't immediately obvious, just put [/sarcasm] at the end LOL ok ill try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Chris don't you mean it's stranger that Vic is the head when he's younger? Edited August 12, 2006 by ArturKim21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Yes I did mean that. See, it's got me confused now :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 I should of just called the topic "Lance is older than Victor" LOL. I thought everyone knew that. Anyways do you guys think that he could have been the reason for Victors death??? Some of you already answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 NO WAY! Lance would never kill his brother, remember he was i talking about I want revenge on them and shit It's called setting people up. He kills his own brother, makes it look like Diaz and his crew, THEN claims he wants revenge, and it never looks like he did it. Then he can take his revenge on Diaz, while running the VCF or whatever, AND take out Diaz. It would be genius, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) It's called setting people up. He kills his own brother, makes it look like Diaz and his crew, THEN claims he wants revenge, and it never looks like he did it. Then he can take his revenge on Diaz, while running the VCF or whatever, AND take out Diaz. It would be genius, really. See thats what I was thinking. He set up the whole thing from the start. EDIT: I'm getting all these IM's from my friends that go to the one forum, dont want to say the name...advertising. Anyways they keep IMing me saying that I got "Owed" thinking im wrong about Lance being older...I proved over 20 people now wrong with that info I got from the (Official) Stratagy Guide. I cant believe that they'll listen to Adriaan when I give them proof from an official stratagy guide where as Adriaan only says that he got it from a magazine...hmmm (Official) Stratagy Guide over magazine...I'll go with the Official info. Now this whole thing is pissing me off. I know im right seeing as I got it from an official source. Edited August 12, 2006 by Original GTA Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 OGM I've talked to Adriaan about it as well. Right, anyway, this has inspired me to write a news post (i'll post it later) pointing out all the inaccuracies we've been told by various articles. We've been told shit like Lance is the main character, Lance is older, character and vehicle customisation not being there, and other shit. I'll clear up any confusion hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) Do I get mentioned or aren't I that important :'( ...I dont care though its your site...but would be nice EDIT: Was this before or after I got banned? PM me about it. Back on topic! Edited August 13, 2006 by Original GTA Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well yeah of course I'll mention you, you're the one who brought up the fact that OPSM2 were wrong, and the fact it's weird that Vic is younger but still the head of the VCF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 Yay I found something big! ok now back to the storyline issue. Do you guys think that we find out in VCS that Lance plans on killing off his older brother? This could be a big part of the storyline. Maybe that was the reason Victor is the main character. In VC 86' his death seemed to be just a plot to the game but could end up to have a whole other story behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor_Vance Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Who's saying Victor Vance is head of the family?? I think they're both the leaders,they work as a team, just like CJ and Cesar, or like Claude and 8-ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) LOL. CJ and Cesar were not the leaders of one gang together. Sweet was the leader of the Grove Street Families and Cesar was leader of the Aztecas. Claude wasnt in a gang and neither was 8-Ball. All that Claud and 8-Ball did together is break out of that enforcer and escape. Yeah every once and a while Claud would get some bombs from 8-Ball but they weren't really friends let allown partners/leaders of a gang together. Victor was head of the Vance Crime Family. Go look at Vicecity.com, it says so there. Edited August 13, 2006 by Original GTA Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Victor being head raises further questions: 1. Is Lance head during VCS 84, then after VCS, he passes on head of the family title to Victor, so during Vice City 86, Vic is head 2. If Vic's head in VCS too, does that mean he can give out missions to Lance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 That first question sounds a little weird cause then Victor would only have been head of the Vance Crime Family for a year or less. The second one makes me think a little because the magazines did say that Rockstar got rid of the point A to point B missions and have a totally different way of doing missions and if you're head of the Vance Crime Family than the new way of doing missions could be that you hand out missions and shit and do your own as well. But then again the magazines say that Victor is older than Lance and he isnt so who knows what else they f***ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Is the OFFICIAL strategy guide the ONLY source you're getting his age from, though? That wouldn't be the Brady Games guide, would it? I mean, they aren't Rockstar.... Who's to say they are 100% right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Yeah it is Brady games and that's the ONLY source so far, I've held off writing a news post about all this false information because it seems most of the sources aren't reliable. I could email Brady Games and ask them were they got the information from, though I'd assume it would be directly from Rockstar, they wouldn't just make infromation up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 yeah Brady Games makes the most reliable stratagy guides and I wouldn't think that they could mess that up. They were only givin 4 ages to put in that stratagy guide and the closes ages that they could mess up are ages 33, Ken Rosenberg and 35, Tommy Vercetti. If they messed up Ken's or Tommy's with Lance's then he would still be older than Victor. I dont think they made the ages up cause some of the characters dont have ages mentioned. So I think that they got it from Rockstar themselves but we'll just have to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanwhip Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well, OGTAM, I just went and tried to prove Adriaan wrong on that post. So I can kiss my membership on that site goodbye and join you on the banned bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well I was warming the seat up for you so welcome . Finally someone has my back on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor_Vance Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Victor Vance is older cause in Vice City he was Bald and chubby... and Lance wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 LOL your point? My uncle is more than 10 years younger than my dad and my uncle is bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 And chubby? Physical doesn't mean anything to age... except the face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 ok now back to the storyline issue. Do you guys think that we find out in VCS that Lance plans on killing off his older brother? This could be a big part of the storyline. Maybe that was the reason Victor is the main character. In VC 86' his death seemed to be just a plot to the game but could end up to have a whole other story behind it. If Lance did set up the killing of his brother then I think that near the end of the game, tension starts to heat up between Lance and Victor like with Tommy in Vice City. This tension hinting Lance's jealousy but you never get to find out because the game finishes and it doesn't cross over to 1986 where Victor died or it would be stupid not being able to play again after beating the game. So maybe Lance starts to show jealousy at the end of the game and maybe in the next year or year and a half (whatever the time difference between the end of VCS and the beginning of VC is), Lance planned the set up of his brother so he could take over and be his own boss and try to take over Vice City by himself. Which didn't work by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Well that could be true but would if we do cross over with the VC 86' Storyline but we find that Victor has armor on and we continue the storyline past the events that happened in VC 86'. I'm not to sure about this but I would love for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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