BlackListedB Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 We just got enhanced uploading capability at YouTube and longer content allowances but it seems the new SOPA and related IP acts up for legal battle and empowering lobby groups against Copyright abuse will make all these changes rather useless. I know bootlegs are supremely frowned on but I still want to hear them for posterity, and Youtube allows film viewing which can be argued needs to incur viewing fees if allowed. For me though, I think free is TV at the least, and documentary fare. I typically buy a movie I like and watch it on YouTube for other reasons, since the quality will ALWAYS be of a lesser degree, and YT cannot stream you HD as you get on home equipment delivery, nor can it give you 8 channel digital surround. I think streaming is nice if you're in transit, on your laptop, but at home, most don't sit at their computer to watch programming, it's just one outlet, and could all be under threat VERY soon! http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111219/04440117128/poll-suggests-americans-all-ages-political-positions-locations-all-hate-sopa.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 America is just absolutely fucked if they pass this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoLuTioN Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) The internet is boned if they pass this not just America. Americans and everyone else ..Please do the needful. http://www.reddit.co..._you_stop_sopa/ http://americancensorship.org/ http://campaigns.dai.../?action_KEY=53 http://www.avaaz.org...ve_the_internet There are more links in the video's description, do check those out too for more info. Edited December 20, 2011 by EvoLuTioN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I used to kinda ignore this all thing, but it seems more serious now. Is there actually any chance they might approve this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoLuTioN Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 ^Yep, There is really good chance that this may get approved. Its being aggressively lobbied and supported by major record labels, publishers(EA), the MPAA, RIAA etc They even tried to trick people into thinking the next hearing date for the bill is 2012 and quietly changed the date to the 21st(Tomm,). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Pretty fucking ridiculous. Any of you sign the petitions evo posted? Shit like this won't help record labels. Record labels would save themselves with the use of creativity. Take what people like Trent Reznor, Radiohead, Louis CK, and even bands that aren't so big like D.E.P. are doing.. putting the records out by themselves, and people do get them. Hell, just have a read at this and see how Louis C.K. was able to put out a special by himself, for an honest price, in an honest way and make profit out of it, and have more purchases than torrents: People of Earth (minus the ones who don't give a shit about this): it's been amazing to conduct this experiment with you. The experiment was: if I put out a brand new standup special at a drastically low price ($5) and make it as easy as possible to buy, download and enjoy, free of any restrictions, will everyone just go and steal it? Will they pay for it? And how much money can be made by an individual in this manner? It's been 4 days. A lot of people are asking me how it's going. I've been hesitant to share the actual figures, because there's power in exclusive ownership of information. What I didn't expect when I started this was that people would not only take part in this experiment, they would be invested in it and it would be important to them. It's been amazing to see people in large numbers advocating this idea. So I think it's only fair that you get to know the results. Also, it's just really cool and fun and I'm dying to tell everybody. I told my Mom, I told three friends, and that wasn't nearly enough. So here it is. First of all, this was a premium video production, shot with six cameras over two performances at the Beacon Theater, which is a high-priced elite Manhattan venue. I directed this video myself and the production of the video cost around $170,000. (This was largely paid for by the tickets bought by the audiences at both shows). The material in the video was developed over months on the road and has never been seen on my show (LOUIE) or on any other special. The risks were thus: every new generation of material I create is my income, it's like a farmer's annual crop. The time and effort on my part was far more than if I'd done it with a big company. If I'd done it with a big company, I would have a guarantee of a sizable fee, as opposed to this way, where I'm actually investing my own money. The development of the website, which needed to be a very robust, reliable and carefully constructed website, was around $32,000. We worked for a number of weeks poring over the site to make sure every detail would give buyers a simple, optimal and humane experience for buying the video. I edited the video around the clock for the weeks between the show and the launch. The show went on sale at noon on Saturday, December 10th. 12 hours later, we had over 50,000 purchases and had earned $250,000, breaking even on the cost of production and website. As of Today, we've sold over 110,000 copies for a total of over $500,000. Minus some money for PayPal charges etc, I have a profit around $200,000 (after taxes $75.58). This is less than I would have been paid by a large company to simply perform the show and let them sell it to you, but they would have charged you about $20 for the video. They would have given you an encrypted and regionally restricted video of limited value, and they would have owned your private information for their own use. They would have withheld international availability indefinitely. This way, you only paid $5, you can use the video any way you want, and you can watch it in Dublin, whatever the city is in Belgium, or Dubai. I got paid nice, and I still own the video (as do you). You never have to join anything, and you never have to hear from us again. I really hope people keep buying it a lot, so I can have shitloads of money, but at this point I think we can safely say that the experiment really worked. If anybody stole it, it wasn't many of you. Pretty much everybody bought it. And so now we all get to know that about people and stuff. I'm really glad I put this out here this way and I'll certainly do it again. If the trend continues with sales on this video, my goal is that i can reach the point where when I sell anything, be it videos, CDs or tickets to my tours, I'll do it here and I'll continue to follow the model of keeping my price as far down as possible, not overmarketing to you, keeping as few people between you and me as possible in the transaction. (Of course i reserve the right to go back on all of this and sign a massive deal with a company that pays me fat coin and charges you straight up the ass.). (This is you: yes Louie. And we'll all enjoy torrenting that content. You fat sweaty dolt). I probably sound kind of crazy right now. It's been a really fun and intense few days. This video was paid for by people who bought tickets, and then bought by people who wanted to see that same show. I got to do exactly the show I wanted, and exactly the show you wanted. I also got an education. And everything i learned are things i was happy to learn. I learned that people are interested in what happens and shit (i didn't go to college) I learned that money can be a lot of things. It can be something that is hoarded, fought over, protected, stolen and withheld. Or it can be like an energy, fueled by the desire, will, creative interest, need to laugh, of large groups of people. And it can be shuffled and pushed around and pooled together to fuel a common interest, jokes about garbage, penises and parenthood. I want to thank Blair Breard who produced this video and produces my series LOUIE, and I want to thank Caspar and Giles at Version Industries, who created the website. I hope with all of my heart that I stay funny. Otherwise this all goes to hell. Please have a safe and happy holiday, and thank you again for all this crazy shit. Honesty and creativity would save record labels. Shame those are 2 things that aren't respected in the business. So going after piracy is pretty much just putting in no work when releasing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLlamaLlama Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I can honestly see this act going through and catalysing a proper revision of how the world works. More people will wake up to the fact that their entire life is moulded from a young age to just sustain the system, and that as long as you are a part of the system, and not one of those controlling it, you have no say, nothing. /hippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoLuTioN Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 American government is already protecting themselves against that with amendments to the NDAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Just saying, guys..... Just saying. And look at it this way. In a technical sense, video game mods ARE illegal. They could decide that websites like these are not suitable, and should be blocked. The internet was the absolute last place that we had total freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingdude Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Stop Online Piracy Act? I would not be surprised if youtube users delete their account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just saying, guys..... Just saying. And look at it this way. In a technical sense, video game mods ARE illegal. They could decide that websites like these are not suitable, and should be blocked. The internet was the absolute last place that we had total freedom. I appreciate all this talk about Canada lately but according to that video Evo posted, this act would have an effect on the entire world. The guy pointed out that the U.S. has a strong control over Internet standards, rules and regulations and "sets precedents for Internet law around the globe which means censorship could become the new standard". And yeah I absolutely agree with you, if they wanted to, they could find 'copyright infringement' in every little spot that they decided to look. A whole range of websites could be shut down/highly censored because of this. Scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackListedB Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well, seems the worry was overblown hype, but taking no action would also have been bad, it DID send a message that put off the worst of the worst, but I believe we're hardly in the clear on this threat to control content flow, and above and beyond Net security, Net Neutrality must be operating under safe guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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