ThePunisher Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Guys listen 2 me. IM A GTA MASTER MIND. hERES WHAT REALLY HAPPEN!!!!! Lance was in a helicopter with the deal. Lance saw tommy with his two buisness partners. He wanted to see If tommy was responsible with the murder of his brother. Lance used tommy to see if he really planed the ambush. But!!! Why did tommy ran away?? Now Lance totaly forgot that he had a boss. Sonny payed lance to leave tommys side. So he neverd found tommy a real friend. When lance wanted to kill the person that killed his brother, he played along with tommy if he was going to confess. So then Lance realized he wasn't involved. So he just used tommy until the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 WTF are you talking about? That was a real deal that was made between Sonny and the Vance Brothers which was ambused by Diaz. He bribed a swat team to ambush the deal. Lance ran away cause he was a coward. Lance later "teamed" up with Sonny when Lance thought Tommy wasn't giving him a fair "slice". You dont know what the hell you''re talking about. You have nothing to prove what you just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Sorry for the double post but here is a Clip of Lance talking to Tommy either saying. "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My little brother would do that." This is what I think he said since he was choked up. He could have said "little" On the other hand he could have said this "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My bigol' brother would do that." When I got a Slow-mo clip of it, it sounded to me that he said this "People patronized me all my life, treat me like a little kid. My gittle brother would do that." What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 He definitely says 'little', it's in the script. And that's correct, Vic is the younger brother. However, it's only two years, Vic is obviously the better criminal. When playing VCS you'll realise why Vic is head, he is just so much better than Lance. In real life I don't think age would matter when it comes to heading a family. The best family member is chosen. Quite a big deal is being made of this and I don't really understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePunisher Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Ya vic seems like a nice guy. THAT lance vance boy. I hate him!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 He definitely says 'little', it's in the script.And that's correct, Vic is the younger brother. However, it's only two years, Vic is obviously the better criminal. When playing VCS you'll realise why Vic is head, he is just so much better than Lance. In real life I don't think age would matter when it comes to heading a family. The best family member is chosen. Quite a big deal is being made of this and I don't really understand why. Wait did you find the official script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePunisher Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Ok whats the score........ Victor is older than lance. His voice seem more deeper. A note to ORGINAL MASTER. You were right. I totaly forgot. How the hell would lance even know sonny. Unless he asked Ken Rosienberg who hes really working for??? that was a note for the guys that MIGHT play gta 24-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 What are you talking about now man? The Vance Brothers made a deal with Sonny and Diaz "intervened" like OGM said by bribing the SWAT ambush the deal. I think Lance would know his client and he wouldn't need to ask Ken who he was "really" working for. Get your facts straight before claiming to be a GTA know-it-all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Wait did you find the official script? Check the American.gxt file if you don't believe me. Also I think someone may have this all transcribed in an FAQ on GameFAQs, all the speech I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_P Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 What a mission script? Link http://uk.faqs.ign.com/articles/409/409873p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Guys listen 2 me. IM A GTA MASTER MIND. hERES WHAT REALLY HAPPEN!!!!! Lance was in a helicopter with the deal. Lance saw tommy with his two buisness partners. He wanted to see If tommy was responsible with the murder of his brother. Lance used tommy to see if he really planed the ambush. But!!! Why did tommy ran away?? Now Lance totaly forgot that he had a boss. Sonny payed lance to leave tommys side. So he neverd found tommy a real friend. When lance wanted to kill the person that killed his brother, he played along with tommy if he was going to confess. So then Lance realized he wasn't involved. So he just used tommy until the very end. Ya vic seems like a nice guy. THAT lance vance boy. I hate him!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok whats the score........ Victor is older than lance. His voice seem more deeper. A note to ORGINAL MASTER. You were right. I totaly forgot. How the hell would lance even know sonny. Unless he asked Ken Rosienberg who hes really working for??? that was a note for the guys that MIGHT play gta 24-7 SHUT UP ICEPICK! OKAY? YOU ARE RAMBLING AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! You just said Vic was older because his VOICE SEEMS MORE DEEPER? We have HEARD HIS VOICE YET! STFU! Christ. And yeah, like Chris said, why are we making such a big deal about which brother is older? I don't think it reall matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 That mission script at IGN is just for the missions, so it doesn't have Lance's random phone call to Tommy unfortunately. I'm pretty sure someone transcribed the entire narrative though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 SHUT UP ICEPICK! OKAY? YOU ARE RAMBLING AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! You just said Vic was older because his VOICE SEEMS MORE DEEPER? We have HEARD HIS VOICE YET! STFU!Christ. And yeah, like Chris said, why are we making such a big deal about which brother is older? I don't think it reall matters. Actually Victor did speak in Vice City's Intro. He said "I think we have a deal my friend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 -shrugs- That was Vic? I wasn't paying much attention to Lance's brother way back then. He wasn't important to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Well you learn something new everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanwhip Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So, according to the actual game file script and an audio file, Vic is definetly younger. Well, then case closed. OGTAM was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 See I got banned for nothing. Adriaan was just pissed that I was correct about something. He was right about one thing. "Just because you have a GTA site doesnt mean you know everything about it." Cause he doesnt know shit. Anyways back on the main topic please. Why is Victor Vance head of the operation if hes the youngest. A lot of you have responded on this saying that just because hes younger doesnt mean that he cant be head of a criminal Empire. Well why was Victor head then? What made him so special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanwhip Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Well, I bet he was way smarter than Lance. I think Lance was just there, and maybe had some connections to help out their 'empire'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Well I think that Lance didnt like the fact that Victor was head of their 2 person crime family. I think Lance was jelious and planned the whole ambush. Its either that or Lance is an even bigger pussy than CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePunisher Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 See heres one thing about lance. hes to much for himself. I don't really think he would look after anyone but himself. Maybe in VCS lance bro became a big shot in VC. So in vcs Vic was doing business with diaz the fat ass man. So then maybe lance knew the ambush was going to happen. But that doesn't really make sense. Lance was even wanted to kill the person that had something to do with the muder with Victor Vance. I don't think Lance was jelious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**pq** Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 now i could be wrong, but going off the idea that lance was pissed that vic was in charge, lance could looked for some way to get ahead, maybe involved killing vic who knows, so lance found sonny....vic dies in the deal, sonny gets lance to team up with tommy for awhile, tommy gets to much juice in vice, sonny wants a peice, tommy says f*** off, lance turns since all is f***ed anyway, lance is killed, sonnys killed, tommy wins. from what i remember of vice that could work. or i jus thought all that shit up and im completely wrong, f*** it. oh yea, diaz comes in somewhere after lance hooks up with sonny, since diaz ambushed the deal...i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 See heres one thing about lance. hes to much for himself. I don't really think he would look after anyone but himself. Maybe in VCS lance bro became a big shot in VC. So in vcs Vic was doing business with diaz the fat ass man. So then maybe lance knew the ambush was going to happen. But that doesn't really make sense. Lance was even wanted to kill the person that had something to do with the muder with Victor Vance. I don't think Lance was jelious. Dude, if you set up your own brother's death, you aren't going to be like, "Oh, yeah, I don't care who killed him. Let's do something else." Shit like that happens in the mob. Outside of it, too. People are evil and twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 and and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePunisher Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Original master has some problems. Takes it so serious and telling me to shut up and that shit. Were find why vic might have been killed. I can't wait until VCS comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwood Butcher Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 When did I tell you to shut up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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