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I hope someone, Modder of GTA or no, can take requests, I want a 79 to 85 Eldorado (convertible or SS top) and a Firebird based around the later 3rd gen, or perhaps a '66 or '67 Chevelle. A late 70s Corvette Stingrays, more cool American cars, please! hahaha (if not exacting, hoping Rockstar can focus on a well rounded variety I suspect one of the things holding up the game is adding things like this to the finale recipe Also on The Weather Channel today, I saw some video from Times Square, NYC... it was wall to wall people, which begs the question, Why was GTA IV's LC no where near as populated? I heard when Dead Rising (? I forget for some reason) came out, the amount of peds or any human like entity on the screen at any given time was impressive, and perhaps could be done in different game genres. One things for sure, GTA has a long way to go yet! haha

All peeps need know is GTA IV is "optimized for dual core" it came out in 2008, Core Duo came out in 2005, HT came out in Jan of 2004, you can have Core2 now with Hyper Threading or multicore 939 socket AMD64 and up from there you can run the game, with a PCIexpress first iteration socket, yep. Direct X 9 complient will work, Shader Model 3 is the minimum. 1 and a half Gigabyte of RAM is what's listed as needed. XP will work at 3 and half Gigs, at 4GB RAM you're asking for trouble on XP or any 32 bit system End of story, the i5 and i7 second and third generation should not pose any real problem. Think about the logic?! The thing is as suggested, it's geared on RAGE built for PS3 and Xbox, first and foremost. The fact you have GTA and MP3 on PC means that RDR and some other RAGE game should not be impossible to make for PC, but if ported, it's been needing perfection since the first RAGE/Euphoria game. This building engine has problems on consoles as well, let's not forget

That was no doubt confusing. Here's one of the odd things MANY forget, GTA started out with little in the way of expletives, it fought the NON GAMING talking heads who rally for decency with Vice City and the previous GTA III, culminating again with Hot Coffee in 2005, yet, play the games prior, there's little really out and out offensive. I felt that perhaps SA was pushing some envelope, but I didn't really notice. It has plenty of gameplay that's just navigating and existing within the virtual San An. Most of the profanity is in keeping with the "urban slang" and story characterization. I feel what GTA IV does wrong is almost RELY on shocking moments like profanity for profanities sake, this to me originally surfaces as a response to the critics that if you want something to complain about, how 'bout this?? They don't want their games remembered that way, so I hope they realize it's ultimately unnecessary to go for shock with crued gaming tactics, and it might even hurt GTA compared to other games trying to steal it's thunder. They could be a filter to make GTA a game more age groups could play It's ultimately satire on real, modern life. Which can be quite boring most of the time, so crime in the context of the game premise is what the virtual platform lends itself to, a Do what You want DIGITAL SANDBOX. I just felt in some respects Saints Row was running along with GTA in their lowest common denominator gameplay attributes, or jokes that are more crude then funny. It's a fine line, as they say. Don't think I'm a prude, I'm approaching it as a mature adult's idea on how GTA can be fun, still get it's premise across and not be out and out offending more then not (to anyone who gets offended, I'll say)

Lacking an EDIT update, another FYI bump on this, I looked out far and wide and have found if you're updating an older 478 socket Pentium 4, the best you can do for a 400 to 533 FSB [Front Side Bus], Northwood Pentiums, at 3.06Ghz is the only HTT model option you have, giving your old machine Hyper Threading Technology. I was pricing them starting at $15USD, so I hope to get a few myself, since I'll need more then one obviously. This older generation doesn't help too much based on older AGP and PCI as mentioned before, still causing some bottlenecks, but it's possible to gain much needed new life in an upgrade if you so chose to go this route http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/291232-28-showing-pentium

Hot Ring racers in GTA Vice City are in the wishlist for GTA V, so as far as a mod, no idea, but we're hoping to influence someone at Rockstar planning future GTA to include more of that, and I concur, sounds like something similar to GTA San Andreas, but also something that could be resurrected

I worry about them pulling support for PBS, where I know they air some ads promoting kid's educational programming, I grew up watching the Muppets, I don't think they should make an issue about this where kids are concerned, sure the importance of accepting different people of different backgrounds is important, I feel the same in cases where I was disenfranchised, but I also believe in having morals, as a good thing, and as a Christian, we face a more open Secular stance then in decades past, for example some alternative lifestyle preachers DO exist, female pastors was the major change I first observed, as well as marriages for clergy.. I also think Jim Hensen, were he alive to witness this, he wouldn't condemn Christian views, though I don't know how religious he was, I believe he just wouldn't take up a position that present opposing hate, which in it's base form comes down to hate I feel. You can't force anyone to think just as you do. Which is what it seems is the goal in all this protesting I grew up in the 60s and 70s, and I still feel you don't rob kids of their innocence too soon, it's not good but it's happening rather alarmingly these days, that's why GTA and M rated games are simply not good fodder for the young and impressionable I am a lover of music, as such, personal differences in my heroes life-styles don't effect me as they would if I were to single them out on that alone... Elton John and Rob Halford two notables, Freddy Mercury of Queen another, I can respect them for their humanity, we all have faults that are not easy to overcome. To be sure. As a child I find it conflicting and worrisome more so I'd have to say, as again, our family's belief in Christianity is much the same as the CEO's ideas of a "normal family", but as a child, you'd likely be stuck in a sitation with one parent for a host of reasons, or a gay couple raising you, and have to cope with that and societal view

I hope not to do too much bumping or appending Double posts, though with expiring EDIT function it's hard to go back to the original post around here... I found this current eBay score, and as an owner, compelled to respond to this.... Seems the users' OS install issue COULD be the same as mine, which was getting the ODD to boot an installer disc and having the proper SATA driver load before hand, typically Windows prompts you for such things as it's beginning the disc reading and file loading (to memory) process. There's also notable upgrade paths for this machine he's selling, assentially the same as mine, but with different spec attributes. Of course, note the internal GMA950 graphics, meaning there's mostly a chance Acer saw fit to outfit the motheboard with no MXM slot, that's required for PCI Express Module cards for gaming, ATI and Nvidia offer a host of them as can be obtained online in the marketplace presently http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-Aspire-4710-Laptop-PARTS-OR-REPAIR-/280931349908?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item4168d03594

Just want to FYI some information I obtained doing parts swaps and upgrades, I take in old "free" computers or scrapped parts and look to build a good MODERN system, that being with some 10 year old parts as need be, but able to run on XP online at this point in time means a proper upgrade and refurbishing. I'm not alone here, many a Google search turns up people asking for some upgrade advice, and logically the help they get is "it's not worth it, sell it and use the money on a new computer", Not everyone has hundreds upon hundreds to spend, they have their own personal reasons to make do with that 10 year old computer but look to upgrade and expand it, as best within that generational hardware span. I maintain that view and have for years because it works, when something works, you don't just trash it, I find a way to make it useful, and gaming or high end video encoding or MASSIVE Multitasking demands can drain any system resource, no matter what the hardware, there are plenty of software choices that are not taxing or demanding and do much the same, and if not, most other computing tasks. I love Dual and Quad Core and the promise of the same for GPUs, like those with dual GPUs on one card, and possibly a console using that tech some day, but I operate on a Dell made in 2004, and sometimes earlier. My Core Duo is from 2005 or 2006, which is still a very capable system, expressly for multitasking and multimedia http://www.fic.com.t...rboard_all.aspx FIC is more to the point of this posting, that some of the standardized hardware devices by organizations without a bias to commercial operations of a company, like having SATA and ATA on all motherboards or ATX sized boards, miniATX, or miniPCI, PCI and PCI Express, PC Card, PCMCIA, USB, all standardized from machine to machine, [no real bias] to develop an Industry wide standard for all PC users, this is a major difference between PC and Apple over the years, and reason why Apple partners with other vendors, and has for years now. Some of these ideas fail but also had good design in some respects, such as BTX which Dell tried to adopt but was not MADE by Dell, yet lauded for it's design to aid cooling internals over the motherboard FIC makes the motherboards found in HP and eMachines, and could even be swapped to a Dell, as I found based on it's headers being standard, and the OEM choosing to use a traditional front panel wiring scheme. This opens up an large array of options based on what motherboard you can mount (off the risers, securing screw posts) and not only the motherboard but drives and Power Supply can be "retrofitted". FIC is just one example, ASUS aka Asustek also makes computers and motherboards for others, along with Quanta and several other Asian companies like Foxconn who made news for some tough working conditions and some suicides in the last year. To update you on that end, it seems they have taken the reports in and are making changes to their operation, hopefully that will continue as it needs to. A few of these Asian companies produce the mainboards in mass for all your OEM brands, few of which are ever made in house It bothers me that people slag a branding for this very reason, they don't have all the facts in hand to dismiss the company's whole product line, and others may have a very different experience with the company or even the same product

I was raised a Christian, the remarks of a CEO or company president about "Family Values" doesn't offend me or startle me, but the back lash presently over Same Sex Marriage and the company Chick Fil A has.... Read more here if you're still living under a rock... http://finance.yahoo...e-too-far-.html Fact is, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression, and Values seem under heavy assualt, and one person on TV claims Christianity gets more flack then any other religion, though I don't know the validity of that claim, this controversy just shouldn't be. If you came out as a person who prefers same sex, the only complaint you can make legally (or should be) is about discrimination based on hiring or allowing you to buy or rent based on that, where as far as I know, they can chose to hire you NOT based on that, but again, because the CEO or President has values and came out expressing them, he and his business are being villianized it seems Even more disturbing... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/muppets-dump-chick-fil-a-over-christian-values-non-support-of-gay-marriage/

I haven't done the same mods to help you specifically, but one that aids control of these "slippery" cars in Vice and III would be a bit helpful, the PC and console versions have some amped up chases where controlling vehicles is one of the hardest game play mechanics, but I know people are less then enthusiastic about the gun aiming as well. As I believe others suggest in the past, and I believe, a spare or new HDD formatted JUST for GTA or any specific games should be used, and disable anything else, all that extra OS or Anti Virus, programs running that are wasting resources should be shut down, and a streamlined OS without normal bloatware (not adware) can elliviate such slow downs I think I personally use several HDDs on one laptop for example, and you can daisychain two old PATA HDDs in a desktop on a normal IDE cable, or of course, plenty more SATA drives

I don't know about you, but I love Windows XP, most people who use other OSes still think XP is Microsoft's best Operating System from a historical perspective, but in about 2 years or less, MS hopes to ditch supporting all XPs for Vista!!!.... Windows 7 and Windows 8, barring that, a new Windows 9 purported to be on the horizon, but as someone who just did another install of Windows 7, I am here to tell you, XP kicks literal arse! We should take some time here to think on it's wondermints. TONS AND TONS of software have been released supporting it, drivers for nearly every device ever manufactured. XP's lifespan is probably near unequaled in the history of computing, bar variations of Linux So, from my end, XP will be the OS to start a Hard Disk Drive (HDD) format fresh for many years to come, and I see at least 10 years still on the horizon for how long XP will actually be servicing the computers around the world What say you all? Some great links to the best OS ever made; http://windows.micro...help/windows-xp https://clickstartco...indows-xp-facts Some repeat facts among these, but have a look anyway, you will learn something I'm sure! http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Windows-XP-190387.html

I did some thread about legacy tech, but since no one is feeling too talkative besides me, this thread here is about any older technical marvel you still have, keep around, and perhaps even actually use. I come from an age where the REAL worry was more about getting a warranty and having something break 90 days on out to 2 or 5 years later. When our one or two TVs in the home were relied on for decades of service. Now we live in the throw away phone, camera and computer age. Where after a year, it's just not up to snuff any longer. Surely, there are some electronic products that are so useful, well designed, and capable, that you just feel like you've no reason to fear obsolesence in such cases... Expound on your personal cache here... For me, it's easy to say what electronics pass muster more solely on their very forward thinking design or quality build, though advances relagate them to the past, they work, and when it ain't broke, don't fix it....or replace it... My motto! haha

One of the Mods for GTA IV PC was near on 3GB in size, I can't recall specifically which one, but around here, Broadband is delivered via Wifi to everyone in the city, I suppose this limits bandwidth somewhat severely

Cool, but I downloaded a massive RAR compressed file for the last one, IIRC, Now I have to do that again? Truly took half a day to download the file! haha

My recent head scratcher was just installing Windows 8, and found I was trying to do so with full RAM installed, which won't EVER work, so it's proof there's sometimes something very simple causing MAJOR headaches

Try one or two mods you can keep track of at one time, My first assumption is it's too much modding, which could mean trouble when you troubleshoot. I have the PC versions but yet to mod them, Seems I will have to do some of that of course, being that you can run Renderware GTAs on a lot more machines without worrying NASA tech is lacking.

I was Googling it all over, nothing about a delay earlier.... odd that As far as it making no sense, PSN as I said was initiated under PS2, this is true, and it would have supported online Playstation 2 infrastructure, but maddening gamers, Sony scrapped the plans in favor of PS3 at the time. The whole Emotion Engine issue came as more SKU and corner cutting arose. that's where I think consumers basically get confused if it's not made clear. What is the extent of shared programming on PS VIta and PS3 capability or offered games on PSN, so I am happy if they've over come any issues thought to exist in the past I did clarify I moved away from PS3 when GTA IV gave me plenty of unknown origin troubles. To the Xbox camp, somewhat reluctantly but just so Fanboys know, I had always intended to own both, seeing as they will be around for the 10 years predicted, as we wait for even one official word about next gen consoles, the companies are glad not to have to compete for a while longer in that arena, because it's a definite challenge Thanks for the tip though, I like to know BEFORE I spend cash on it! haha

Can't edit since I left the site/page... perhaps triggers that whole thing, but this find video wise is worth a historical prospective To do the same for PCs and Apple products would take marginally longer! haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzHrbBoXd0Y&feature=related

Stemming from user comments about GTA in HD and whether PC alone can offer that, I saw a few noteworthy comments regarding the PC Elite view and Console "fanboyz" Fact is, consoles didn't just come up with the current crop, they've been here for all of our lives, A bit longer then home computers I'll also have you know. I was alive in all these years, I know the console gaming experience of the mid 70s, simple black and white graphics, Vector Graphics and Coleco / Adam of the 1980s, Tandy, Atari, Intellivision, simple stuff but if you wanted the real gaming experience, you went out to any arcade you can find with a pocket full of quarters. To suggest the PC versions of GTA are HD is not fairly accurate. The comments that console owners and players voiced was with regard to GTA and Rockstar centering their engine and efforts for the well established console home gaming market. It got that way over time dedicating hardware specifically to gaming. Computers allow this much more in recent years and decades, one can say since 2005, so the current battles have to do with more powerful consoles and PCs sharing similar capabilities...but all along, the PC is intended for anything it can do, a console is expressly made to do gaming, and do it as well as need be or expected I've only come down on the side of controller comfort, which is not perfect, but nothing in this life is... And my purchasing based on proposed software obviously, as well as a capable entertainment system, in it's own way, the console can handle multiple entertainment needs, and against the PC's faster then normal evolution, meaning expense is greatly increased, even with lower software retails This guy probably said it best in his response; 'I never understood how someone could seriously use that statement, "real gamer/true gamer". I guess we're supposed to only like and do what those people say is best. Ok everyone let's all cry together now because we don't have highend pc's. ps360x, we suck bro, our inferior consoles make us fake gamers. Why do we go on living?'

The cross-platform thing is confusing was hoping someone can fill me in, if I own a PS2 I buy specific software, in the case of PS3, I was having issues with that BD drive even when it came to GTA IV on the original 60GB I paid over $400 for. The optical drive was a problem for several serial number PS2s, I was declined a trade in pawn in a pawnshop because they were going by these same serial batches as troublesome units. Most of you know RROD is such a mess, you only get a week or so to test a purchased used system, a month at best. Of course the 60GB has that magic Emotion Engine chip, offering backward compatibility, and after the newer SKUs I got a bit confused about what was going on there, since it had been rumored the chip would be supplanted by firmware emulation, I am sure some site got the specific timeline with specs out right, but I'd just moved to Xbox and it's assorted problems Anywho, I'm still a bit confused if this is hardware specific requirements to download from PSN http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/27/grand-theft-auto-iiis-release-date-on-playstation-network

It's not a stretch to think artists already appearing in GTA prior, could return in GTA V, many suspect some kept genres but I also expect some new, a 60s or early 70s progressive radio station very likely List what you think is the most likely or what you hope to see or has the best chance in GTA future/neXt, or GTA V specifically? For me, more KISS, more Black Crowes, more The Who. Perhaps even Genesis and Phil Collins I believe Sam Houser said that QUEEN was a personal favorite he was proud to have as well as David Bowie or Elton John, so my money would be on those as well

I invite old console gamers to have a say here as well. I mentioned my exposure to the oldest tech was Apple II series in the late 1970s, I even got to do a learning course on TOUCH SCREEN Control Data system or something similar. In the age of the Apple, scanning of photos and the modem I saw evolve along with MIDI and other various Multimedia and telecommunication come to the consumer, it was all too expensive too, my dad invested in a system based on my input as well as other kids in our family who also were exposed to Apple. I remember us shopping for a VCR and going with Beta too, but it wasn't as much input on my end as some might think, though I learned Beta was thought highly for it's attributes as the best tape format, though not as widely accepted. For consoles, I used to play them in the stores as they were setup to show off systems, the age of Atari 2600 and Intellivision, Sega Master System, etc. My Apple //c is one fine portable Apple from 1984, the age of the original MAC as well, and I plan to keep my Apple //c for all my retro software there. I felt I must have a Floppy Disk of the modern variety, used on Apple and PC, and for many a year. Strangely and funny enough, in the used market, I scored a Sony Mavica digital camera using floppy disk storage, it was a lot of fun to see this media have even more life!

Sorry to tack appended posting on this, but..... Prime example; http://www.gtaforums...c=498872&st=140 ...we can talk bad about GTAF because it's simply not getting better, despite staff calling into question the size as an excuse and cop out, I said as Waddy told me once, if you want the biggest site with the most members, don't complain about it to those who are attempting to be long term members, which I was, I 'rocked the boat' only in unseen and unheard complaints made after I posted things, though I got warnings, I had an honest, non-comical rebuttal but if no one takes things seriously, they won't listen to your side, just those complaining, and again, I tend to disagree strongly with their opinion as objection. Many people might not get something I've said, but it's never intentional... NEVER. I stand on truth and fact, if I get it wrong, it's human, ya know? If not.... Anyway, in their Gen Chat is a list setup (above) much like the Awards, Who is the most creepy, most likely to flip burgers at (Burger Shot) or become a rapist (rather offensive, but I suspect it's based on odd posts or age difference), and Biggest Spammer I make the list when I've been banned, but Hey, I'm not allowed on there, so quit voting me in there, it makes no logical sense, which is the whole of the issue, I think. In the words of the great Dave Mustaine "Whaddya mean I'm not Kind?? Just not your KIND!" hahaha

Service pack 2 and 3 are intended as HOTFIX roll-ups, or security patches, not really the same as patches done specific for consoles or portables like the PSP firmware updates, it shouldn't really impact gaming or using software that's not reliant on security of the OS, Major software additions for Service Packs include new IE updates or Windows Media Player. It's hard to say one thing or another is really a culprit, but removing SPs can mean a lot more sketchy OS, since all improvements to secure and fix vulnerable holes in it are left off, of course. I'm not really hearing XP SP3 being an issue, but take note that Service Pack 2 should be run with Windows Vista, it's run really well since those patches from all I've heard

You sure? Sounds a little "underpowered". GTA IV is next gen gaming as far as the first GTA for Xbox360, and Playstation 3, it runs very choppy on PC, even ones that handle normal games, shall we say. Older versions of GTA do run on some portable devices