Franswurst

You are quite right on this, which is, to be honest, one of the biggest problem in America, I don't mean to offend any Americans here, but America is one of the most intolerant countries in the world, mainly because a lot of Americans know nothing about the world, they never leave the country, hell they don't even have a passport, all they believe in are their Christian values and what the media tells them to believe. Again, not attacking Americans here, a lot of countries have that problem, but for a nation that's supposed to be "the greatest nation in the world" the US has a shit load of problems, intolerance being a big one. I completely understand why many people (mainly Religious) would be against Gay Marriage, or Homosexuality in general, but they need to learn that their scripture is based on something thousands of years ago, and that common sense alone should already dictate that everyone has the same rights, and should be treated equally. Dude.... Chestnut and I are totally planning on moving to Germany((99.9% because we want away from this hellhole))..... We can bunk with you, right? Haha, sure but, um, certain 'services' will be required to...you know "pay rent", lol. Gerard in a way also strengthened my argument, because you can't compare the rights of the three groups because they weren't all discriminated against in the same way. But it also brings up an interesting question, all of you who are against gay marriage being legal, are you also against homosexuals being allowed to vote, or work in the same place as you?

How the fuck can you say gays shouldn't have the same rights as every other person? What makes them different apart from the fact that they like the same sex? They are people like you and me. Being homosexual does NOT define who you are, its just a sexual preference but it doesn't make you a good/bad friendly/unfriendly, and whatever person. @Harwood Butcher: I know the question was directed at Gerrard, but I thought I'd give my thoughts on it too, now I had written out a nice paragraph on this, but when I finished I realized that actually if I think about it, that's a stupid question to ask (not calling you stupid, just in general the question itself), all three groups should have had the same rights as everyone else to begin with. I mean, again we're all the same we may have different skin colors, sexual preferences, accents, or whatever else, but in the end, aren't we all human?

You are quite right on this, which is, to be honest, one of the biggest problem in America, I don't mean to offend any Americans here, but America is one of the most intolerant countries in the world, mainly because a lot of Americans know nothing about the world, they never leave the country, hell they don't even have a passport, all they believe in are their Christian values and what the media tells them to believe. Again, not attacking Americans here, a lot of countries have that problem, but for a nation that's supposed to be "the greatest nation in the world" the US has a shit load of problems, intolerance being a big one. I completely understand why many people (mainly Religious) would be against Gay Marriage, or Homosexuality in general, but they need to learn that their scripture is based on something thousands of years ago, and that common sense alone should already dictate that everyone has the same rights, and should be treated equally.

Skipping missions is not possible as far as I know. I don't even think there's a trainer or a mission skip mod. Some trainers just have timer stops, but thats about it I think. If you have VC for the PC you can always upload your savegame and ask someone to beat the mission you're having trouble with. Most missions in VC aren't that hard if you just stick at them.

But if you've upgraded your v1 to v1.01 with the official patch, I think you also need downgrade again, as that patch also prevents the hot coffee mod, if you didn't want to buy the new game. (as well as fix a few bugs).

Alright cool, thanks for your help Noru. Once you get the PC version, add me, and we can battle online

Thanks I figured it out now, for me its "Space" because I had changed my key configuration. Do I actually have to kill the person after I counter them or just basically counter them once (so duck, and then punch)?

Adding to the kissing, I don't want to see homosexual couples like straight up making out on the streets either, but that's because I don't want to see heterosexual couples do it either, I mean if you wanna stick your tongue down your partners throat, don't do it where everyone has to see you, lol. Although I guess I have done that before already as well with Girlfriends, but I try not to do it. But otherwise, what do I care if someone is gay, straight or bi, it doesn't change what kind of a person they are, it just means they have a different sexual preference.

I know you have your opinion, and that's fine. But how can you say that there can't be genuine love in a gay marriage? There can be just as little or as much love between two people of the same sex, as between two of the opposite, and you can't discredit that because you don't know. And it seems like you're saying that a normal marriage is always based on love, and perfect, but how many marriages fail? About half of all people getting married end up getting a divorce, even though they probably had genuine love when they got married. Personally, I am for same sex marriage, but mainly for the reason that I don't care what other people do, if they want to love a person of the same sex, then so be it, if they want to marry them, fine by me as well. Everybody should have the same rights and the freedom to do what they want, whether I approve or like it is another matter (in this case I do approve, but I'm also talking in general). Who am I to say what other people can and can not do? Love and marry whoever you want, as long as you don't force your sexuality onto someone else I don't care.

I don't have a pic for it, but I'd choose a Penthouse like Playboy X has, all the way at the top of an apartment building, that doesn't look to suspicious with the roof to myself and all that good stuff.

If we go realistically and by character then it would be: 1) Tommy 2) Niko 3) CJ 4) Claude 5) Victor 6) Toni But if we base it purely on say GF's in a game, then CJ, but that's more of a technicality win, than an actual win Tommy FTW! EDIT: Darn, just noticed that this topic is already way old!

I want to get the "Finish Him" Achievement, where you have to perform 10 melee counter attacks, the only problem is I don't remember the keyboard key todo this. I read you have to get someone to attack you then as they try to hit you duck them, and counter them, but I don't remember which key you have to press to duck/counter the attack, can someone here please help me? I've tried looking in the manual and under the key configuration but it just says the keys for the second attack etc, but not to duck/counter.

When you load up the game, at the main menu screen or so it should say in the bottom left (I think its left or just in one of the corners) what version it is.

You are right, the second edition for some reason prevents people from Modding it, probably so you can't remod the Hot Coffee thing, since thats hwy they had to bring out a second addition. As far as I know people have come up with downgrade patches so you can downgrade to the original, and then mod the game again. I'm not sure if this works for the second edition games though, or only the first edition games that were upgraded with a patch. Do a google search on downgrade san andreas or something.

I'm sorry, but I just can't read this and not comment as well. 1+ 2) Spaz already said a great deal on this and most of what I wanted to say, Obama is only legalizing abortion up to the end of the first trimester, since that is the official thing in the whole world (where abortion is legalized), its very rare cases that abortions after that are allowed and its usually only when rape was involved. And as Spaz said, its a FETUS its not yet a living being in the first trimester, it doesn't have a brain or a heart yet, it might be "living" inside the mother already, but its nothing it doesn't know it exists, and is greatly undeveloped. You can't really compare abortion (what you say killing a human) with actually killing a born child or a grown man/woman. 3) Yeah, really weren't thinking on that one were you...? 4) His first telecast was for Iranians? You say this even though you don't know and just heard about it, can you present factual evidence of this? And either way, does it matter? Do you think he sent them subliminal messages saying "look i'm now president, we can begin taking over america?" He's President of the USA, which makes him one of the, if not the most important man in the World, so as such he also has to appeal to the whole world. 5) Considering you are all about human rights and not killing a human being (abortion) you however on the other hand think its ok to torture people and treat them without any rights and dignity? Yes, SOME of the prisoners in Guantanamo are terrorists, but there's also some who are not, by closing Guantanamo, Obama is making sure that these people can be filtered out, and have their rights restored. And once Guantanamo is closed and the prisoners have been prosecuted they will be handed out to the authorities of the respective countries. 6) See #3 7) So you think spending 1.3 Trillion Dollars (which like you said the US doesn't have) to try and save the countries economy, and prevent people losing jobs etc, is bad, but spending over 10 Trillion Dollars (which again the US don't have) on a war that was started under false pretenses is good? 8) Good, see above. 9) And? Here we are on the subject of Humans again, and homosexuality dates back to long before Christ. I always love the Christians (Catholics at least) who condemn homosexuality, and then their priests go around molesting little boys... I myself was born catholic but like many here, over the years I got smart, and realized that (to me) the bible is a bunch of bullshit, and has caused more damage than good. I think its ok to believe in something, everyone needs something to give them hope, but I can't understand those people who believe the bible word for word. 10) Maybe a young/inexperienced guy is what America needs for once, there is a need for change, and maybe Obama can bring it. I'm not American, but if I were I would have voted for Obama because I think he was the better candidate. Do I believe he will make a huge difference and change everything and make everything good? No, I don't but I believe he will try his best and knows that a lot of things need to change. Anybody expecting a miracle from Obama is stupid, but believing in Obama is not. Now, I don't know if its true that you're 13 or not, but if it is, you really should not be starting political discussions like these, because you're just not old enough yet, to know a lot. You just know what you're parents tell you, what others tell you, but you need to get a little older so you can also start making up your own opinions, so you can gather your own knowledge. I don't mean this in an insulting way, but you're the one who is inexperienced when it comes to politics, and the world because you're probably just too young to understand it all.

It sounds very interesting, but at the same time very scary I think it will cause a lot of problems with Hackers and stuff like that. I don't know I just can't see tat much good coming from it. I agree with Spaz, I don't think the positives can outweigh the negatives.

I don't think its been posted, then again it tells you how to do all this in the Instructions that come with the game doesn't it? At least mine does...

Yeah, that was my reason too but I never knew that Francis' ability is disabled after the storyline is done. I was pissed off because everytime I tried calling Francis he never answered...so I always had to call

Most of the GTA games I will remember by the theme song they were advertised under. And other games I can't really say.

I took the revenge/badass killer route for most of the game. (I've played through it once now) I killed all the guys instead of sparing them and I killed Derrick because I read that Francis and yeah took revenge in the end, might do some things differently next time.

Yeah that was sort of included in the spree, since you need to get a wanted level first and then you die, or get busted. Personally going on a spree is more fun I find. Why do you want to get your cash down to 0 anyway?

Yeah, if you have a GTA IV PC specific topic, you can just add thats its about the PC version, but there aren't really that many differences between the versions anyway. I think its better to keep it in one place or else we might have double topics popping up and stuff.

Dying...thats really the easiest, or blow your cash on guns, buy the RPG and all that fill it to the max go on a spree and refill.

I've also only really become active this year again, but I've seen Earthbound do a lot of things, specially with the Gang Scene so I voted for him.

Little side note, with the raise wanted level cheat you can't get six stars anyway, it only goes up to five as far as I know. Congrats on getting it. I got it the other day too.