Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Not much of a discussion here. Just something I wanted to tell you'all. A boy at school (probably 16 years old, but I'm not sure) has yesterday evening (sunday) commited suicide. I don't know why, cause they haven't toled us. I don't personaly know this guy. Anyway, you cycled to a train station, and then lay down on the rails and of course... you know. He left a note for his parents. Again, no idea what's exactly in it. But something about him not seeing any point in life anymore, and maybe more that they don't want us to know. Maybe he had a fight was drunk.. maybe he planned this days in advance... we don't know. But for what ever reason, he's in peace now. The boy also had a brother and a sister. It will be difficult times for them and the parents of the boy. I saying this, cause I've been thinking about this about the whole day. Don't really expect comments on this actually.. but at least you guys know it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Damn. That had to be painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 It seems suicide by being rammed by a train is "popular". Mostly they use trains for some reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I have more to say but I'll just say this for now. I think it's a shame they don't tell you what the reasons were behind suicide. IMO everyone concerned should be told. i.e. everyone in your school. The reasons he did it should be known so that others don't get their lives fucked up enough that they head in the same direction. You'd like to think if they see their selves going that way they could get some help. There's not many people in the world that could commit suicide and the world would be a better place, off the top of my head, Bush, and Jack Thompson, but everyone else is sure to have at least some family, and most likely friends that are gonna be hurt by what's happened. Shit gets complicated following this too. I hate people who kill themselves where other people may be harmed too. I mean what if the train had then crashed and then killed loads of innocent people? What a dick he would have been. If you're gonna kill yourself, at least do it so you aren't physically harming others. Trains are used because it's pretty difficult to survive being hit by one, they're more accessible (don't need a huge building, or any rope, or buy any meds). So it's pretty certain death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 Uhu.. The parents must be thinking it's their fault for all weird reason's. Might end up crazy cause this is bound to traumatise them. Also the train "driver". He'll have it on he's conscience. And his brother and sister. About making it public.. Maybe later, but I don't think his family would really like it ATM being all around school. It's a hard time for them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Hard time or not, usually people who commit suicide want their story known. They want what they left behind to be heard. To deny that is complete and utter bullshit. ESPECIALLY since they are now, obviously, dead, and can't make it known themselves. Sorry, but a person's dying request is usually something to respect. Death notes are USUALLY things people want to be heard and known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEW-GUN Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The way I see it is if you kill yourself you're just a loser.I mean thats it,game over for you. I'd have to say, in times when your really pressed, ENCOURAGE yourself rather then chanting "theres no point in life". You CAN get through this. Mostly talk to someone, becuz thats the main reason people kill themselves. They get depressed and never talk to friends and family so they get MORE depressed and after a huge lack of socialism, its just easier to kill themselves. I say the devil does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty-T Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) If I were to kill myself I would take alot of pills. That seems like the least painful way to go. P.S. Thats the first smiley thing I've ever posted. Edited March 12, 2007 by C Blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 This is going to be a popular topic with many different views, "I can tell from some of the opinions and having seen a lot of popular topics in my time". Let's try to keep arguments down to a minimum. Let us know your own views. but respect everyone else's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR Jason X Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 i tryed to kill myself a few years ago when i was at school i cant rember why but i tryed to kill myself by jumping off the school roof (3 floor) it did not work i just got a broken arm and a broken leg i was right lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEW-GUN Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 i tryed to kill myself a few years ago when i was at school i cant rember why but i tryed to kill myself by jumping off the school roof (3 floor) it did not work i just got a broken arm and a broken leg i was right lucky Question: Did the fact that you survived change anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The way I see it is if you kill yourself you're just a loser.I mean thats it,game over for you. I'd have to say, in times when your really pressed, ENCOURAGE yourself rather then chanting "theres no point in life". You CAN get through this. Mostly talk to someone, becuz thats the main reason people kill themselves. They get depressed and never talk to friends and family so they get MORE depressed and after a huge lack of socialism, its just easier to kill themselves. I say the devil does this. Suicide isn't always about depression or any type of emotional problems at all. Some people just don't want to live anymore. Some do it ritualisticly. Like, to keep their honor, or to devoid themselves of the dishonor they have. Some see death as the beginning, not the end. The point is, some people don't want to live, for whatever reason it is. Yes, it could be good to try and help them, but if they are set on death, leave them THE f*** ALONE. If people want to die, we have NO RIGHT to make them live. That's just as cruel as killing someone who still wants to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEW-GUN Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 i gess so. owell,my point is killing yourself isn't the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 News flash: A man just killed the mother of his wife. Then grabbed his kids and together with them (he forced them, poor little kids) jumped infront of a train. BTW, the note was specificly adressed to his parents. Maybe it will come to the public in some time though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisman Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 There are much more effective way to kill yourself than get hit by a train. When you get hit by a train you will traumatize the driver, and make yourself VERY unpopular to everyone traveling by train. If they HAD to commit suicide by train, I'd prefer a saturday or a sunday. Something as simple as shooting themselves in the head does not fall into their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) In the Netherlands.. how would you ever want to get a gun? Edited March 12, 2007 by Jace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 OD'ing is a rather easy way to kill yourself. Slitting your wrists and sitting in a bathtub full of water works, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_91 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Im not trying ot be daft here or anything but do you think Bullying had something ot do with it. It would make sense since the school ain't giving any info away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 There was a dutch book written about that. There's this fat boy who, well get's called fatso, pig ect. At the end he commits suicide. I don't really think he was bullied. But you can't rule it out. I'm not sure, but I though he was goth, but that can't be the reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony. Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) There are much more effective way to kill yourself than get hit by a train. When you get hit by a train you will traumatize the driver, and make yourself VERY unpopular to everyone traveling by train. If they HAD to commit suicide by train, I'd prefer a saturday or a sunday.Something as simple as shooting themselves in the head does not fall into their mind. But if you shot yourself all yours brains and skull fragments would go everywhere. I would fell sorry for the people who had to clean it up. I saw a show about cleaning up New York and one of the segments was a apartment where someone shot their brains out and let me tell you it was not pretty and made me feel kinda sick. Yay my 50th post Edited March 13, 2007 by jonker93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftermatt Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 To me suicide is never the correct choice, regardless of reasons. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Most problems can be fixed. It's always possible for life to get better. And as far as why he did it (or anyone does it) who really knows. The note could simply say "life wasn't worth living" but not go into detail. At 16 you haven't really started living life yet, how can you know it's not worth living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Worth is a word of value. Life doesn't have a set or pre-determined value. It can't be examined by a professional and have an estimation of it's precise value. It's not a diamond. Therefore, the value in it, is personal. It's what you see in it. What you want in it. So really, no one can tell you that your life is worthless.... Or for that matter, tell you that it isn't. Again, suicide isn't always about problems. And again, no point in FORCING someone to live when they clearly don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickDeath Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Maybe that guy wasn't a goth but an emo, they look pretty similar (at least to me), that would explain his suicide. The emo movement has grown beyond any resonable boundries, you can find instructions for emos how to dress like emo, how to cut your wrists properly and so on over the internet. Anywayas i red somwhere that usually women choose to end their lives in a bath cutting their wrists, cause they are more concerned bout the mess after suicide then men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 He was not an Emo, I'm sure of that. Today at school there was a protest. Turns out he had organised it via mail a few days before killing himself.. Makes the whole thing whorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickDeath Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 What were they protesting against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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