hunter88888 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Urban, calm down man, was just kidding about the skyscraper made in USA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Get better soon Back on topic. I believe the Twin Towers were actually 'plane-proof'. The flaw being, however, that they did merely thought about the impact, not about the fire that would rage afterwards. The heavely damaged structure in combination with the fire that was weakening the support collums brought the tower down. Slowly, until it was heated to the point that they had lost most of it's strength and couldn't hold up the massive wait that it was supporting any longer. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just stating the way I see it and believe it happend. Again, I'm not stating what the media said. I'm stating my own reasoning after summing up lots of fact, footage ect. When the same person who once stated that he is a terrorist is found with data for plans of crashing planes into a building (they didn't have the WTC in mind yet) on his lap-top that got confiscated and who's friend that got arrested after they had a little accident when they were experimenting with their home-made bombs (his house was full of the stuff the make it) and after being tortured (sometimes.. brute force just is needed.) cracks, and gives up the information he got and knows, including the plan to use planes for an attack. I think it's pretty safe to say it was a terrorist attack. Yeah, maybe Bush did react slow. But what else should he have done? Give the hijackers a call and asking them to please land the plane safely on a nearby airstrip and after that have a cup of thee while negotiating about Bush's regime and what Al-Qaeda would want him to do differenty? It's not that easy. Nothing would have been different if Bush had left the school straight away. He's a president, not the head of the crisis management team. He hasn't been trained for any situation like that one and thus isn't in charge (well, he is if he wants. But there is someone else who leads these type of situations). There is not need for the presidents permission to just get some F16's in the air so they can get the plane (what wouldn't really be possible anyway. See one of my previous posts). So that's that. I think that except for the hole in the Pentagon, pretty much everything has a solid counter argument that is very lickely to be true and not based on speculations, but facts, footage and eyewitnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter88888 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Plus he wanted to finish up the story. Can't have kids getting confused about why an old lady was inside a wolf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanoutlaw Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 The 'food for oil' was used in Iraq but notice how Bill Clinton first came up with the idea then the used it when they went to war with Iraq...... Bill Clinton never ran the UNITED NATIONS(as in UN Security Council Resolution 986 AKA food for oil). I dont need legitimate sources.... That speaks for itself, I've wasted all the time I'm going to on this w/ you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I dont need legitimate sources.... Only just read that. Didn't see the "don't" Well, I thing that explains why you believe some drop-out kid (aka Dylan). I rest my case, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_91 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Sorry but what I meant is by 'I dont need legitimate sources' was that people with power claiming Bush had a part in 9/11, however thats not going to happen. I have lots of facts, just can't be bothered posting them. No one ever persuaded me that Bush did 9/11, I believe it myself, at first I thought al-quada done it but then I took a step back and wondered whether they could do something this big by themselves (not they were small time terrorists at the time), then the more information I found about Bush e.g linking him with the Bin Ladens and the way he choose not to do anything for about half an hour after the first plane hit, it made sense to me that he was a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I guess that it is possible to come to such a conclusion, yeah. But you'll have to know that it was his father who did business with Osama's father. George W Bush did not. Osama's dad can't help his son starting something like Al-Qaeda. But again, what would you expect Bush to do? Nothing really. He isn't in charge of the air-force. It's a normal procedure to send those planes to search for the plane missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 As far as I know, the Bin Laden family aren't a terrorist organization, Al-Quaeda is, who's leader happens to be Osama Bin Laden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 The bin Laden family (Arabic: بن لادن), also spelled bin Ladin, is a wealthy family intimately connected with the innermost circles of the Saudi royal family. The family was thrown into media spotlight through the activities of one of its members, Osama bin Laden. FBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeL Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Kinda off topic here but isnt it breaking the rules to tell someone to get something off of Limewire? No warez - Discussion about illegally obtaining copyrighted material is strictly forbidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 What? We`re talking about 9/11 and conspiracy and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeL Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 What? We`re talking about 9/11 and conspiracy and stuff. Read end of first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Some stuff on Limewire is not illegal,some songs,it is illegal to download copyrighted games.I doubt that downlading the vid that Aznn is illegal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Depends. If you'd actually have to pay for the data, then it would be illegal. Freeware is fine. I don't think you need to buy a licence for Lose Change, so then it would be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azn Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) My friend watched it on Google Video and Google authorized it. If it were to be uploaded onto Youtube it would be remain there as well. I think I spotted loose Change 2 on Youtube a few months ago but that was before Youtube started putting 10 minute limits on every video uploaded. Edited January 13, 2008 by aznn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Kinda off topic here but isnt it breaking the rules to tell someone to get something off of Limewire?No warez - Discussion about illegally obtaining copyrighted material is strictly forbidden Limewire, nor any other P2P program is not illegal. Using it for illegal purposes, however, is. Just like guns, bongs, and propane-soaked mouth gags.... But that's all I'll add to this discussion. Fuck all this "CONSPIRACY!" "YOU ARE STUPID!" bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmac Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 That video ''Loose Change'' is pretty interesting. I have to say the point they made about the Pentagon was very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) Hmm No offense or anything, but you really are pushing it saying stuff like this on a (mainly USA members) forum...far out.. I mean...like...know your place.. Whether it was or it wasn't...you cant really do much about it. And like it said on that website that was posted in the first page, if it was a conspiracy, then wouldnt the government have shut down their site etc?? Edited January 27, 2008 by WRX22B1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris. Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 How are we pushing the limit by discussing any of this? Last time I checked America had something called the First Amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 im not saying its ILLEGAL thers a difference between "pushing it" and illegal... idn..it just seems smething you DONT talk about.. becaus it would really offend americans (i think) and anyone who lost family / friends or anyone in the attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris. Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Discussing the possible conspiracies behind 9/11 has nothing to do with mourning the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 lol arguing with you is nearly as useless as arguing about whether 9/11 is a conspiracy... or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azn Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 Anyway.. The 3rd and final cut for Loose Change was released at the end of 2007 and it has recently been made freely available for viewing on the Internet. I even found it on Limewire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If you really think about this, what proof is there to prove if it was a conspiracy or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azn Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 The Pentagon is the main example; How, does a Boeing 757 disappear into a small hole, then make another hole at the other side and not leaving the nose behind? Or that the FBI arrived in minutes to confiscate any videos that recorded the attack... Or that there was a lack of debree (or however you spell it) at the site? There's many things but I haven't finished downloading the video so I can only watch parts of it before it stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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