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Thats exactly the same with killing adults.

Killing children is no different, except in our culture it is perceived as even more wrong (morally) and sick. People who murder adults are either evil or desparate, wheras people who murder children are regarded as "sick" or "the devil" or perverts and psychopaths. What's the difference?

And if you ask me, which of course you are, there are some kids who I think deserve to die. But that of course isn't how this world works and killing anybody (young or old) is wrong and should never happen.

For the sake of argument and for all the clamour that would arise over the issue, it is too risky to put them in at all.

I read in the newspaper a sentence about "a game called Grand Theft Auto where you gain points for murdering policement and raping prostitutes." We all know the police come after you and you go to prison if you kill someone. We all know you don't get "points" for anything, you get cash for doing jobs for people. Another newspaper claimed it was a game made for "training criminals to evade and kill the police."

So even if a kid was only in a cutscene of a game, or it was impossible to shoot one, or a kid was your own son or something, the media would misinterpret it and get politicians (who dont know anything about it) to ban the game based on what they say.

It's the same with the Internet and Net Neutrality. At present, anybody can put anything on the Internet and access any site. But some idiots in Washington think the internet is made of TUBES stuffed full of information, and those tubes are do full with "corporate internet" that we can't get "our personal internet". Because of that, the US government are agreeing to make TWO Internets, one fast one for businesses that pay lots of money, and a slow shitty personal one for all the other sites.

The media take one idea and wrongly apply it to everything. We can't change their stupidity so the best we can do is avoid upsetting them, and that means no kids in a GTA game.

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I see a lot of people on here who don't want kids or animals in GTA4 and I couldn't disagree more. It's your choice whether ornot you kill them. Why not have the freedom to make the choice not to kill them?

And as far as animal rights groups having a problem with killing the animals, I seriously doubt that would happen. They'd probably go after Big Game Hunter or any of the other games in which the whole purpose is to kill animals.

And if anyone has a problem with killing kids in the game, let me tell you that they are probably the same people who had a problem with killing hookers when GTAII came out. Also, in the game Fable, you can beat the shit our of the town's kids. Why not take it a step further and keep GTA controvercontroversial. This game thrives on controversy. Anyone who has a problem with killing fake kids in a video game can just get bent.

Let me just clarify something here. I don't think GTA should become a real-world emulator, in which we can kill children just because the choice is there. Driving around wrecklessly, street crime, drugs, gangs, hookers, that's one thing, but what you're talking about is breaking down the fabric of society's moral and ethical codes just so we can have the choice to do something we otherwise would never do. That's absurd.

I agree with sweyy, if you were given the opportunity to kill someone you didn't like in real life without consequences would you do it? Thats the line that seperates the normal from the violent. If you allow someone to do that in a video game then they will be more likely to do it in real life. Video games don't kill people but they do help people make the descision to. Don't call me a hypocrite for playing GTA, I would answer no to my previous question.

As sweyy said it breaks down your moral and ethical codes, maybe not substantially but it does. Given time it could change a persons judgement for the worse.

Besides Rockstar won't be able to release a game where you can kill kids, their in too much hot water right now after the hot coffee incident.

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it woul be better if they just came up with a lot of things like a bigger number of vehicle specially planes ,interactive objects all around the map wich could be thrown to people , the idea of cuttin trees is good , also the possibility to enter more buildings and get into an elevator to get to the top ,better physics, new cars a big map divided by a sea where youll need to use a cruise boat or a plane to get from one island to another

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There should be a movie theater or a drive in where for a certain amount of money you can watch cutscenes from the game or from older gta's.

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Let me just clarify something here. I don't think GTA should become a real-world emulator, in which we can kill children just because the choice is there. Driving around wrecklessly, street crime, drugs, gangs, hookers, that's one thing, but what you're talking about is breaking down the fabric of society's moral and ethical codes just so we can have the choice to do something we otherwise would never do. That's absurd.

So do you not play the game Fable because you can beat children up in the game? It's the same shit.

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I'd like to see more stealth missions like the one in SA where you had to swim out to the ship. Maybe you could do spy side mission's that you could start if you wore a tuxedo and went to a radio tower somewhere.

Now that would be cool!!!!

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I agree with sweyy, if you were given the opportunity to kill someone you didn't like in real life without consequences would you do it? Thats the line that seperates the normal from the violent. If you allow someone to do that in a video game then they will be more likely to do it in real life. Video games don't kill people but they do help people make the descision to. Don't call me a hypocrite for playing GTA, I would answer no to my previous question.

As sweyy said it breaks down your moral and ethical codes, maybe not substantially but it does. Given time it could change a persons judgement for the worse.

Besides Rockstar won't be able to release a game where you can kill kids, their in too much hot water right now after the hot coffee incident.

I at least hope the in the game I can skin helpless animals and sell their fur for money.

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How about u can catch dogs and cats on the streets and make them ur pets or sell them to a pet store, in which u can also buy pets?

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How about u can catch dogs and cats on the streets and make them ur pets or sell them to a pet store, in which u can also buy pets?

I'd much rather kill them.

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I thought it may be cool for the start to be in Libert City but upstate is open too. But all the districts are open as its just the opening city. As the story proceeds your character has to flee Liberty City and fly to somewhere different off the map to get away. You could go Italy (Michael from the Godfather) but travel round Europe. Just an idea but I thought it was cool.

I like the sound of animals but have it like the animals in Smugglers Run. if you run them over they get back up. The animals cant be killed no matter what. I think animals is a nice idea as it would make the countryside seem less barrun. having a herd of cows walking around would look better than an empty farm.

I like the idea of peds with their own lives. In San Fierro there was that baseball park how cool would it be to see peds watching a match and playing baseball instead of an empty park.

They should bring back the airport interiors like in Vice City but instead of peds wandering around in circles. thye should have luggage and them trollies but also standing in a que at the teminals and bagguge check in. the airport should be busy like Vice City. Airplanes should be always taking off and landing but leave on runway clear for when your character decides to fly.

More safe houses with different interiers.

cameos from previous characters.

I cant think of anymore at the moment. :D I hope you like my ideas.

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- When tha police are chasing you, you should be able to lose attention by stealing a car when they don't see you doing it (and of course without alarm). They don't recognize your new car and you'll lose a wanted star or 2, Just like changing clothes.

- When you buy a room in a casino, and you enter the casino, you should be in the entrance hall and then come in the casino itself, before you can walk to your room, instead of only be able to enter your room like in SA.

- When you have a cop- or military uniform yous hould be able to enter the restricted area's without being shot at. And when you enter restricted area's, there should be soldiers all over the place, just like in VC. Only they should be on the training course and following a sergeant or something, or on top of the watch towers, and not just standing in groups like the gangs in VC.

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I think that you should not be able to walk down the street with a rocket launcher, smile at a cop and be fine. Maybe a system where you would select you weapon like normal, and then pressing up on the d-pad (I'm xbox-minded), target, or shoot button would take it out. Once you've got your gun out peds see it and run away call the cops etc., if a cop sees you with it out you get a star or two. There should be room to conceal all your gear except the heavy weapons- where are you gonna hide a rocket launcher? up your ass? I wouldn't mind having to keep my heavy weapons in my trunk or in a duffel bag because if you were walking down the street with that kinda firepower, odds are you're gonna get stars anyways.

When you draw your gun the camera gets in close over his shoulder, like the camera in the splinter cell games.

There should be more assets and they should connect to each other and help you build a criminal empire ex. you buy the printworks and start counterfeiting money and take to a casino you have a stake in and launder it, like that movie with jackie chan.

Blowin up building like mercanaries would be nice but I think it should take more damage. In that game you put a little bit a c4 beside a 10-story building you'd destory it, buildings should get windows and sides blown out before they just collapse.

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I put my 2 cents on WIKI Gerard. I'll write the same thing while i'm here.

Walkman or mp3 player,depending of the year it will be, if we have to spray or look for something and always have music.

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there are definatley gunna be skateboards, its most likely gunna be after 200 so therl be ipods, skateboards are cool, and FUlly interactive invironment even the grounds blow up.

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there are definatley gunna be skateboards, its most likely gunna be after 200 so therl be ipods, skateboards are cool, and FUlly interactive invironment even the grounds blow up.

I am currently visualizing a more multigenerational GTA 4 game, like a Koei strategy game. It will start in the year 1920 and end in the year 2020 so that the player can experience a century of progress in the fields of technology, weapons and crime. So the post 2000 part will be more of a hard-earned late mid-game than the specific setting for this GTA game. And as the years go by, new music is played on the radio, and radio stations are added and deleted from the lineup as each genre of music becomes popular or unpopular with the masses. Have you ever played a Koei strategy game, tilly? In this Grand Theft Auto, having a girlfriend for sex isn't enough. You've got to marry her and have children to succeed you after you get killed or die of old age or else the game is over, and your simulated family tree will never last from 1920 to 2020. Eventually in time, you will have nieces, nephews, cousins, children, grandchildren, etc., and you will get to start your very own family Mafia from your own family members.

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OK heres what i want to see in the next GTA:

Online- this has been something i have wanted for so long as im sure others have also, i want their to be different options and be able to start and apply to join gangs and all that stuff. start gang fights with others gangs all across the world and make your way to the top of the world ranks.

Better destruction - the whole point of gta is making it as realistic as possible and when i shoot a building with a rocket launcher i expect it to blow up which they dont. when a car runs into something it doesnt crumble like most cars do in real life. if you scrape against a building i expect their to be no point on the car but when i get out to my suprise its fine and the car looks as good as new. I want to be able to walk into almost every building and actually be able to do something like say you walk into a bank do a bank robbery or if you walk into a house your should be able to steal everything including their fridge.

More vehicles - yah i dont mind the vehicles that are already in the game but ive drove every last one of them and sometimes in a traffic jam you will see 5 of the same vehicles in a row. add more ridable vehicles such as rollerblades and skate boards and all that. (no offence but the bmx in SA sucked and you couldnt do any realistic tricks)

Weather and Seasons- Weather such as snow would complete this game. having a snowmobile driving around with snow plows everywhere ohh i just would play this game non stop. Have severe weather like tornados that only hit not very often.

Music- i know rockstar was trying to get the ghetto theme across in SA, but the music sucked. i loved VC for the music it was just awesome and i cant wait for VCS to come out to see what the music will be like on that. but i want their to be better music so i dont always have to turn the radio station off in every car im in.

gun battles - in all the gta games every cop just runs out and tries to kill you. I want them to hide behind cars and hide in alley ways and everything not just run right towards you as i said earlier GTA is about being realistic and not every cop in real life runs towards a man with a ak 47 in his hands.

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buy crack beer.

a map of detroit and you can fly to lc,vc,sa

you can rob evry store.

buy cars and plains and boats.

gett drunk.

more weapons.

a speedometer.

winter and sommer.

(ski in the winter)

you gett sick.

being able to take hostages.

bullet hole in the objekt you shoot at.

if the car is on the roof it will not blow up.

have animals like dogs and cats ore a farm whit cows pigs chicken.

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I love the idea of being able to visit Liberty City, Vice City, and San Andreas.

SA was 4 times larger than VC which was twice as large as LC. GTA4 should be 4-10 times larger than SA, With ability to take airplanes to LC, VC and SA.

A larger selection of vehicles.

Skateboards, ability to take it anywhere and do tricks like in Tony Hawk Pro Skater.

I'd love if their were more radio stations.

Lazlow's station/s should have a ton of content, 24 hours worth would rock.

Havok physics would be freakin' awesome, realistic ragdolls, debris flying around realistically, realistic car handling.

Destroyable buildings.

Cars shouldnt explode unless blown up with explosives.

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Actual cheats, instead of having to enter a code to increase health just have a god cheat, or infinite ammo/money cheat, etc. A console, and a built in level editor.

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