chris82 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you're spending that amount of money, a new graphics card would suit you as it would be better to spend more if you wanted to upgrade the processor. You could probably find an ATi 4850 for that price with rebates which would be fine. But also keep in mind that you need at least a PCI-express x16 slot for that. The 7900 is the minimum graphics card the game will need according to the system requirements, but iirc your processor doesn't meet the minimum specifications. It's up to you, either upgrade would help, but a graphics card upgrade would be easier and cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosbuster Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi, these are my system specs:AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor 3800+ 2GHz NVIDIA GeForce 7900GT 2GB RAM Windows Vista 32 SP1 Currently I am able to play most games on high settings, but seeing as my system barely meets the minimum requirements I was wondering how I could make the biggest difference to my PC for the lowest price. I'm looking to spend no more than around £50-£60 (about $100 - $120 I think?) as money is a little tight for us at the moment. I'm already planning on buying another GB of RAM. My monitor's native resolution is 1600x1200 and I would like to play at this resolution if possible, even on low settings, but if necessary I wouldn't mind playing at 1280x1024. Any help would be appreciated as I know you guys probably know way more about gaming hardware than myself. For the amount of money you want to spend you can get a brand new 9800GT , a good offer indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you're spending that amount of money, a new graphics card would suit you as it would be better to spend more if you wanted to upgrade the processor.You could probably find an ATi 4850 for that price with rebates which would be fine. But also keep in mind that you need at least a PCI-express x16 slot for that. The 7900 is the minimum graphics card the game will need according to the system requirements, but iirc your processor doesn't meet the minimum specifications. It's up to you, either upgrade would help, but a graphics card upgrade would be easier and cheaper. Given that my processor doesn't meet the requirements and my graphics card does, I'd rather buy a new processor. I was looking at this processor - would it be worth buying or would I be better of saving a little and getting an X3 phenom? This is the cheapest I could find: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/144803 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 to make a point, you could have a intel quad core extreme edition $1000 processor, and a geforce FX5200, it still wont run it. sure your card meets the "minimum" but, i wouldve thought this game is more graphic intensive rather than CPU (still is cpu intensive, but graphics would be slightly more useful) i think. so yeah like chris said, and im saying. better to upgrade your video card. do you have a PCIe x16 slot? if you dont then, you might be in a bit of trouble cos AGP is sorta long dead :S but you should have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 to make a point, you could have a intel quad core extreme edition $1000 processor, and a geforce FX5200, it still wont run it. sure your card meets the "minimum" but, i wouldve thought this game is more graphic intensive rather than CPU (still is cpu intensive, but graphics would be slightly more useful) i think.so yeah like chris said, and im saying. better to upgrade your video card. do you have a PCIe x16 slot? if you dont then, you might be in a bit of trouble cos AGP is sorta long dead :S but you should have one. Yes, I have a PCIe x16 slot. The point that I was trying to make is that if the game won't physically run without the minimum processor (or will run very badly) wouldn't buying a graphics card be slightly pointless without first upgrading the processor? I'm asking because that's the way it seems to me. The graphics cards you've all suggested all seem to be around £100 or so, whereas the processors I mentioned cost £50 - £60, which is what I was intending to spend. Obviously you guys know what would make the difference, but I just can't spend that much money (credit crunch anyone?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claude-5 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 www.canyourunit.com go there and select GTA IV that dont work, it said my old system would not run THUG 2 or simcity 4, funy enough, it runs them both, it said my new system GTA IV on recommended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) Well then i guess you should upgrade your cpu...you can upgrade your video card later, like after xmas or something i suppose. Just dont expect to run gta in any good looking settings, it will prob be like 800x600 low/med details, cos of that video card. according to a benchmark on toms hardware (quake 4 1280x1024) even a AMD 4600+ beats the phenom X3 you mentioned. however GTA4 might be more optimised for multicore than Quake 4 was. the other X2 you were thinking of (5600+) is way ahead of the phenom you listed which is a higher price too. But this could all change soon, because game dev. will optimise for multicore (we hope) so it can be used more effectively. If i were you, i would buy the X2 5600+ , you can always upgrade later if you really need to. according to their site they have only 3 left so better jump on it Edited November 17, 2008 by WRX22B1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well then i guess you should upgrade your cpu...you can upgrade your video card later, like after xmas or something i suppose. Just dont expect to run gta in any good looking settings, it will prob be like 800x600 low/med details, cos of that video card.according to a benchmark on toms hardware (quake 4 1280x1024) even a AMD 4600+ beats the phenom X3 you mentioned. however GTA4 might be more optimised for multicore than Quake 4 was. the other X2 you were thinking of (5600+) is way ahead of the phenom you listed which is a higher price too. But this could all change soon, because game dev. will optimise for multicore (we hope) so it can be used more effectively. If i were you, i would buy the X2 5600+ , you can always upgrade later if you really need to. according to their site they have only 3 left so better jump on it Thanks for the reply. Maybe it will be better to wait until the game comes out so that I can get feedback from people who have the same hardware... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 yeh waiting is usually a good option, especially with a unreleased game like GTA4. then when you wait, you can save some $$ and you can upgrade your video card and CPU all at once then you will be able to play no probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FransDK Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Vista intel dual-core 1.6 overclocked to 2.2Ghz 3gb ram ddr2 Geforce 9600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM™ Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think you can run it on high, but I don't know whether your card is a 9600GT or 9600GS or whatever the others are. If it's a 9600GT you can max out the graphics in GTA IV, I doubt the processor though will be good enough to run. Dual Core is fine but the speed is the thing I'm not sure about. Other than that, it should run on your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosbuster Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think you can run it on high, but I don't know whether your card is a 9600GT or 9600GS or whatever the others are. If it's a 9600GT you can max out the graphics in GTA IV, I doubt the processor though will be good enough to run. Dual Core is fine but the speed is the thing I'm not sure about. Other than that, it should run on your PC. Hmm , are you sure that an 9600GT can max it? Although it's a rather good card I wouldn't expect anything worse than an 9800GT to be able and handle it on full , at least not at a decent res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM™ Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Well if you look at the specs, it shows: Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870 NVIDIA 8600 is the card that apparently can max it out or anything higher, so I think a 9600GT should run it. I'm currently on a 9500GT and that's actually a decent card, so hopefully that could run it. Don't take my words for it though, it may not run decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON 3993 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I got a new PC. Want to know about Cards. Processor: 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo Windows XP SP2 RAM : 2gb Cards : 512 mb NVIDIA GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nforce 630i Please tell me about ALL the cards that can RUN the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 To run it decently with an ATi card you should have a 3870, 4850, or 4870(x2). To run it decently with an nVidia card you should have an 8600, 8800, 9600, GTX 260, or GTX 280. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZohanJohan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I would like to know why the max requirements for the CPU are different. The Core 2 Quad is required by Intel and AMD's not the Phenom X4, but rather the Phenom X3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It's probably because Intel doesn't have a triple-core processor that I know of and they didn't want to just make the recommended processor a very-high clocked dual-core so they went with a quad-core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZohanJohan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It's probably because Intel doesn't have a triple-core processor that I know of and they didn't want to just make the recommended processor a very-high clocked dual-core so they went with a quad-core. I am 2 weeks away from buying the barebone but it feels much closer now that i sold the PS3 version of the game. Because it's primarily a GTA 4 motivated upgrade which should i get The X2 6000, or the Phenom 8450 1 keeps my barebone price under $200 and adds 600 mhz and 1 core to my overclocked 3500, the other is 100 mhz away from the exact clock speed at stock of my 3500 but there's 2 extra cores, not to mention that it's the recommended GTA 4 processor from AMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiting4GTA Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 will it work on this laptop? -Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 2.0 GHz 2MB -3GB DDR2 800 MHz -nVidia GeForece 9300GS 512MB DDR2 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters! Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Will This run it? Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 GHz RAM: 3.00 GB I don't know my Graphix Card Settings, But I do know it is Powered by Nvidia GeForce ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustADummy Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why do I think we have the same computer? Yes, it will run, not at max but yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiting4GTA Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 will it work on this laptop?-Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 2.0 GHz 2MB -3GB DDR2 800 MHz -nVidia GeForece 9300GS 512MB DDR2 thanks Somebody? Enybody? please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Maybe, your graphics card is bad, you might be able to play at minimum settings. Butters, go to start->run (or press Windows Key+R if on Vista) and type dxdiag and post what it says your graphics card is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZohanJohan Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Chris so what should i get a strong x2 dual core 5600-6000 which is not a recommended AMD CPU or the 8450 which meets the recommended GTA 4 requirements but has a weak clock speed. I will order my barebone on December 3. the day after i buy the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Off Topic: Okay I have this one question. If you laptop screen wiggles back and forth a little bit. Is it still in good condition? Or is my PC messed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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