Huckleberry Pie Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Ageed on Toon and Lord of GTA. Them terrorists who cite Allah as their motivation behind their attacks are doing it wrong. I do have some eerie feelings when I see one on the street, but some Muslims tend to be so aggressive that they give a unsavory impression on the eyes of other people (well, not all of them of course, i do have a friend who's quarter Muslim). Allah Himself obviously didn't want to see brothers and sisters blowing each other's limbs off, right? The whole community could've been happier if those fanatics shut up. Edited July 14, 2009 by Huckleberry Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Would you call David Koresh is the perfect example of Christians? He said he was a born-again Christian in the Southern Baptist Church and joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church. How about Jim Jones? Who lead a whole church in Guyana and sponsored the largest mass suicides in history. Adolph Hitler? These are NOT good examples of Christians. Just as terrorists are not good examples of Islam. Exactly What i was saying thank you "ToonSkull" for gving this simpl and very good example @Ivan man i'm just saying that that the terrorist and lot of our muslims aren't the good example of Islam if you want to know about Islam you research in Prophet Muhummed(SAW) Life because he is the right Model Of islam we the muslim Unfortunately do not follow rightly the rules of islam there are no words in Our Holy Book "Quran " that killing innocent people is right and you mentioned about News on TV Man Media is the Production of USA not our Muslims And USA And Israel is Against The Muslims You are saying that Muslims are killing innocent peoples but i think you don't know about "Philistine" a muslim contry in Middle East The Israel occupied Forcely on it you don't know because no news of this comes to TV because they are Jews Not Muslims Israelis killing innocent peoples and Childs Is That Right and they are Rapping Muslim women and Girls Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OH MY God is that Right have you ever seen at least one News on TV :pissedred: Just look at things this way, if Alah really didn't want extremists then why not tell them to stop? That also applies to other religions, they've "appeared" on Earth in the past so why not, now? Even those muslims that are peaceful they still ae pretty weird, the whole stuff you listed on one of your posts and the way they discriminate women is ridiculous. Also, fuck you Too-Skull, you're just 15, you have no right to come here like if you were some wise old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I will have sex with who I want, when I want, how I want. And your god won't tell me otherwise. My girlfriend and I have been living together for over a year, we've had vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, you name it. We look at porn, we take pornographic pictures of ourselves and each other. We smoke, we drink, we partake in other drugs. We do not, however, wrong someone unprovoked... The stuff you listed that you seemingly think should be some of the biggest sins ever, are unimportant and irrelevant to leading a good life. Are equating pre-marital sex to murder? Your religion is probably corrupt, too. Unless you follow a non-hypocritical, unbiased religion with little to no flaws, you have no room to down-talk other people's religions. So Spaz, do you have you own church or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonSkull Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) @ Lord of GTA, You're welcome. @Huck, Thanks! @Ivan, Jesus loves you and I love you too bro! Since Azazel is not coming back in here... I outta here! Peace and chicken grease. Edited July 14, 2009 by ToonSkull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 To be honest, extremists MAY just fucking be the perfect example of Muslims, Christians and whatever religion you pick. They are the people who are so fucking passionate about their religion, their holy book and their "God" that they go on bombings, kill people for disagreeing on a book that was written thousands of years ago. They were the ones blinded by religion, they commited themselves to it. This "theory" also makes sense in the way that, as extremists are complete fucking nuts, if they are the true displays of religion, it shows religion if fucking nuts. That said, ToonSkull and Lrod Of Gta, extremists are good christians/ muslims (according to each members religion respectively) and you 2 are just condescending "run to God in times of despair" pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG187 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Anyway, I am a Christian...well this isn't that surprising, heh. Even so, I do believe in God and that but I am not into it. Don't go to church that often, don't pray that much ( only when I have problems ), etc. I believe, though, in destiny. I believe that everything that we do was written somewhere and we just follow the path. Don't know, that's me, my beliefs won't change that soon. In my opinion, religion debating will never end ( only when Earth blows or something ). I am wondering, how the world would of been if religions wouldn't existed and everyone followed his own faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have a small problem with the Islamic religon by how it is used in the law in certain countries. It makes me sad when you hear about young girls being hung because she was in a car with a man when she wasn't married. I do wonder what the world be like if religon never existed. Would we have a history that is dominated by wars. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have a small problem with the Islamic religon by how it is used in the law in certain countries. It makes me sad when you hear about young girls being hung because she was in a car with a man when she wasn't married. I do wonder what the world be like if religon never existed. Would we have a history that is dominated by wars. Who knows? Seriously? And here was Lord of GTA talking about having anal sex and living with someone before marrying, is that really so much worse than murder to you, man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Of GTA Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have a small problem with the Islamic religon by how it is used in the law in certain countries. It makes me sad when you hear about young girls being hung because she was in a car with a man when she wasn't married.I do wonder what the world be like if religon never existed. Would we have a history that is dominated by wars. Who knows? Seriously?And here was Lord of GTA talking about having anal sex and living with someone before marrying, is that really so much worse than murder to you, man? @Ivan and Bear man it is Forbidden in Islam that an [/b]Unmarried[/b] Girl meet with Boys who isn't his Relative or Who Isn't his Husband and making Boyfriend and Girlfriend is Totally Forbidden so a Unmarried Girl Or Boy Can't live with boy or Girl Respectively and Sex and Adultery IS TOTALLY FORBIDDEN I'm a Muslim I haven't Any Girl Friend and i think it s right and Allah Almighty Forbid this For Whole World Not Muslims BECAUSE ISLAM IS THE RELIGION FOR WHOLE HUMANITY NOT ONLY FOR MUSLIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I'm not Muslim so I see no reason why I should worship Allah. I am Catholic because I was christianed in a Catholic church therefore its Jesus and God I would worship. But I don't practise the religon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have a small problem with the Islamic religon by how it is used in the law in certain countries. It makes me sad when you hear about young girls being hung because she was in a car with a man when she wasn't married.I do wonder what the world be like if religon never existed. Would we have a history that is dominated by wars. Who knows? Seriously?And here was Lord of GTA talking about having anal sex and living with someone before marrying, is that really so much worse than murder to you, man? @Ivan and Bear man it is Forbidden in Islam that an [/b]Unmarried[/b] Girl meet with Boys who isn't his Relative or Who Isn't his Husband and making Boyfriend and Girlfriend is Totally Forbidden so a Unmarried Girl Or Boy Can't live with boy or Girl Respectively and Sex and Adultery IS TOTALLY FORBIDDEN I'm a Muslim I haven't Any Girl Friend and i think it s right and Allah Almighty Forbid this For Whole World Not Muslims BECAUSE ISLAM IS THE RELIGION FOR WHOLE HUMANITY NOT ONLY FOR MUSLIM Yeah, right..... You still haven't answered my question, that was sort of random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shit LordoGTA, if Allah forbid everyone to do anything fun, might as well forbid everyone to breathe. Seriously, what is life for if you can't enjoy it? Why would Allah want to see his perfect creation suffer? It doesn't make any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG187 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Same as Bear, only that I am an Orthodox, I ain't a Muslim and I don't pray to your God, so saying that your religion is for whole humanity is kinda....damn. I have no problem in expressing your opinion but damn don't go that radical. Gees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I would rather enjoy the one life I have then deprive myself of everything to get into an afterlife that may not exist. My time on this planet is short so I want to enjoy every last second of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG187 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Live every second of your life as it could be the last second you will live. Well...the quote was something like that... bit of changes but the same meaning, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The stuff you listed that you seemingly think should be some of the biggest sins ever, are unimportant and irrelevant to leading a good life. Are equating pre-marital sex to murder?Your religion is probably corrupt, too. Unless you follow a non-hypocritical, unbiased religion with little to no flaws, you have no room to down-talk other people's religions. Excuse me Super Mod, I thought we aren't supposed to argue in this topic? As Chris said, or you will be suspended. I am not Islamic but I have friends who are and I take serious offense to this stereotypical remark. Just because the Mafia are Catholics doesn't make all Catholics Mafia members. I may not agree with Azazel's remarks, hell my friends who are Islamic are more likely to disagree with him. But to bash an entire religion because one man push your button is not what the topic is meant. Chris can correct me if I am wrong, but I assume this topic was meant to share ideas and belief. Not to beat people over the head with their own version of the Bible. This is why I ignored Connor in the first place, he is looking to debate and with me there is no debate. I don't see an example of me ARGUING. Debating and arguing are not quite synonymous. I was simply judging him as he judged us. STEREOTYPICAL REMARK? When the HELL did I remark on any one specific religion in that post? OH, yeah, I DIDN'T. So, ToonSkull, you can take you're dick-bent comments and keep them to yourself. This is why I never discuss my religion or politics, they lead to fear. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense a disturbance in the force. JAB Yoda was so fucking wise. rambleramblenonsenseblahblahbullshit Seriously, just shut up. I will have sex with who I want, when I want, how I want. And your god won't tell me otherwise. My girlfriend and I have been living together for over a year, we've had vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, you name it. We look at porn, we take pornographic pictures of ourselves and each other. We smoke, we drink, we partake in other drugs. We do not, however, wrong someone unprovoked... The stuff you listed that you seemingly think should be some of the biggest sins ever, are unimportant and irrelevant to leading a good life. Are equating pre-marital sex to murder? Your religion is probably corrupt, too. Unless you follow a non-hypocritical, unbiased religion with little to no flaws, you have no room to down-talk other people's religions. So Spaz, do you have you own church or something? Nope. I just believe in live and let live, believe NOT because you're told to but because you truly BELIEVE, and free-will. I have a small problem with the Islamic religon by how it is used in the law in certain countries. It makes me sad when you hear about young girls being hung because she was in a car with a man when she wasn't married.I do wonder what the world be like if religon never existed. Would we have a history that is dominated by wars. Who knows? Seriously?And here was Lord of GTA talking about having anal sex and living with someone before marrying, is that really so much worse than murder to you, man? @Ivan and Bear man it is Forbidden in Islam that an [/b]Unmarried[/b] Girl meet with Boys who isn't his Relative or Who Isn't his Husband and making Boyfriend and Girlfriend is Totally Forbidden so a Unmarried Girl Or Boy Can't live with boy or Girl Respectively and Sex and Adultery IS TOTALLY FORBIDDEN I'm a Muslim I haven't Any Girl Friend and i think it s right and Allah Almighty Forbid this For Whole World Not Muslims BECAUSE ISLAM IS THE RELIGION FOR WHOLE HUMANITY NOT ONLY FOR MUSLIM Oh wow. Oh WOW. That is such total shit. You're openly supporting the killing of FREE WILL and as such, HAPPINESS. "Allah Almighty" could knock on my door and tell me not to have sex with my girlfriend and I'd just laugh, and close the door in his face. I am HAPPY dating my girlfriend, having sex with her, and spending as much time in a car riding with her as I damn well want to. I'm also not hurting ANYONE by doing so. I'm happy, she's happy, no one is harmed in our happiness. So anything that says that is wrong is BULLSHIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Of GTA Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Man After Your Death You WILL HAVE to answer Before "Allah Almighty"Who created whole Universe and Planets because if he has the powers to create you so he has also the powers to Recreate You After Your Death And If you obeyed his Orders In During Life He will Enter You In Heaven and If you Didn't Obeyed his Orders During In Life You will Be enter in Hell where will be the Burning Fire Which is 100 Times Heavier then Our Normal Fire And Islam Is Not ONLY For Muslims But it is for all Humanity Becase It Is Allah's Last Religion which HE Sent Humans You Should Read About Islam and Then You Will Realize If Whole World Accept Islam The There Will Be Peace And HAPPINESS I'm Not A Recruiter Of Islam i just Give You Message Your Own Religion and Our own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Yay so if I join Islam, then if I sit in a car with unmarried with a man, I will be hung. Sounds like a real hoot. Look have an open mind, if I want to believe in Bhudda then let me follow that religon. There is no proof that hell exists and also I'm not that fussed about going to Islamic Heaven to see how many virgins will be awaiting me. You are really tempting me to go and be a full fledged Catholic just to stop the recruiting and preaching. So if I want to believe that Jesus is the son of God and that God is not Allah then why won't you let me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Inferno Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 This is precisely why I don't put my faith in the intangible. Nothing can be proven or dis-proven. What my messiah says is right, even if he said it so long ago that it has lost all relevance. Even if it defies modern logic and sensibilities. Even if scientific advancements have evidence to contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyde Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Man After Your Death You WILL HAVE to answer Before "Allah Almighty"Who created whole Universe and Planets because if he has the powers to create you so he has also the powers to Recreate You After Your Death And If you obeyed his Orders In During Life He will Enter You In Heaven and If you Didn't Obeyed his Orders During In Life You will Be enter in Hell where will be the Burning Fire Which is 100 Times Heavier then Our Normal Fire Now that's hawt. "Hell" is a method in which people use to scare people into joining your clan so you can be teh awesome messiah. ---> Used by 95% of all religions in the world. "No woman rights" is a method to control a large amount of people where all teh people with power would be happy about the clan they are in. ---> Used by a fek loads of historic societies and some religions today. Top 2 cliches in religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Pie Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 To me, there's no problem in religions, as they were supposed to be formed for people to share the same beliefs, it's just that these debating things are on the part of humans who misunderstand each other's opinions. That's why I nomally stay away from such arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG187 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Man After Your Death You WILL HAVE to answer Before "Allah Almighty"Who created whole Universe and Planets because if he has the powers to create you so he has also the powers to Recreate You After Your Death And If you obeyed his Orders In During Life He will Enter You In Heaven and If you Didn't Obeyed his Orders During In Life You will Be enter in Hell where will be the Burning Fire Which is 100 Times Heavier then Our Normal Fire And Islam Is Not ONLY For Muslims But it is for all Humanity Becase It Is Allah's Last Religion which HE Sent Humans You Should Read About Islam and Then You Will Realize If Whole World Accept Islam The There Will Be Peace And HAPPINESS I'm Not A Recruiter Of Islam i just Give You Message Your Own Religion and Our own 1st. God damn use punctuation, is very hard to read your comment. 2nd. After I die I will answer to my religion God not to "Your's Allah almighty", or I don't know who I will answer to or if I will ever answer something to someone, or I will not answer nothing to anyone and go in abyss.... Yes Huck, you are right, but when simple opinions start to degenerate into orders or commands, well, things start to get messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Religon can be a great thing, it can teach morals "Thy shall love thy neighbour", it can give people hope when they are in the darkest moments of their life. The Bible has some good messages which many laws are bases on and can be a good way of life. Treating people how you wish to be treated and many other messages are found in religon. I only have a problem with religon when people take it too far and the ideas become radical. Its when people become intolerent of other peoples beliefs is when I have a problem and I don't wished to be preached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Religon can be a great thing, it can teach morals "Thy shall love thy neighbour", it can give people hope when they are in the darkest moments of their life. The Bible has some good messages which many laws are bases on and can be a good way of life. Treating people how you wish to be treated and many other messages are found in religon. I only have a problem with religon when people take it too far and the ideas become radical. Its when people become intolerent of other peoples beliefs is when I have a problem and I don't wished to be preached. That's why I don't really have a religion (except I must have a religion in my country so, I'm basicly Christian) Religion is more like guidelines in life to me, something that let's you know which is in the good and bad category with some exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Man After Your Death You WILL HAVE to answer Before "Allah Almighty"Who created whole Universe and Planets because if he has the powers to create you so he has also the powers to Recreate You After Your Death And If you obeyed his Orders In During Life He will Enter You In Heaven and If you Didn't Obeyed his Orders During In Life You will Be enter in Hell where will be the Burning Fire Which is 100 Times Heavier then Our Normal Fire And Islam Is Not ONLY For Muslims But it is for all Humanity Becase It Is Allah's Last Religion which HE Sent Humans You Should Read About Islam and Then You Will Realize If Whole World Accept Islam The There Will Be Peace And HAPPINESS I'm Not A Recruiter Of Islam i just Give You Message Your Own Religion and Our own Bold- Rofl Why should I go to Hell just for not following a religion, If my entire life I were a good person why should I go to hell? It doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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