davesta Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Getting back on topic (thanks raybob for filling up this thread with useless crap again). I have doubts about that a 3870 with 512MB VRAM could play on max settings either. The texture setting itself on max would take that whole 512MB VRAM leaving no room for the other stuff. So I think you would card with at least 1GB of ram and somewhere around 800 Stream processors to actually play this g game on real max settings.Maby this one would be a better choice. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=3669 I wasn't saying that a 3870 with 512mb VRAM would be able to max GTA IV, I was simply suggesting a cheap alternative that would run the game well. I have a 3850 and that runs the game absolutely fine on medium to high settings, and as medium settings in GTA IV are about the equivalent of max settings on most games, that's more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ray Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Will my PC run the game with these settings and hardware at a minimum of 20fps consistently without me shutting down every other background process? How will it look compared to my PS3 Console version at 1080i on a 61" TV? Settings: Video Mode: 1920x1200 (60 Hz) 24 bit Color Texture Quality: Highest Render Quality: Highest Shadow quality: medium Water quality: high Reflection quality: low View Distance: 60 Detail Distance: 75 Vehicle Density: 85 Shadow Density: 8 Resolution: 800x600 Texture quality: Medium Render quality: medium Shadow quality: low Water quality: low Reflection quality: low View distance: 40 Detail distance: 50 Vehicle Density: 30 Shadow Density: 2 System Information uploaded in Word 2003 Format: NEW_PC_BUILD.doc Edited February 21, 2009 by raybob95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Getting back on topic (thanks raybob for filling up this thread with useless crap again).I have doubts about that a 3870 with 512MB VRAM could play on max settings either. The texture setting itself on max would take that whole 512MB VRAM leaving no room for the other stuff. So I think you would card with at least 1GB of ram and somewhere around 800 Stream processors to actually play this g game on real max settings.Maby this one would be a better choice. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=3669 I wasn't saying that a 3870 with 512mb VRAM would be able to max GTA IV, I was simply suggesting a cheap alternative that would run the game well. I have a 3850 and that runs the game absolutely fine on medium to high settings, and as medium settings in GTA IV are about the equivalent of max settings on most games, that's more than enough. What resolution is your monitor? On my HD 3450, putting 1440 x 900 (My native monitor resolution) on low settings brings the game to 5 FPS. But on 800 x 600 I get a good playable frame rate with medium settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What resolution is your monitor? On my HD 3450, putting 1440 x 900 (My native monitor resolution) on low settings brings the game to 5 FPS. But on 800 x 600 I get a good playable frame rate with medium settings. My monitor is 20" and runs at 1600x1200 My specs are as follows: Vista 32 SP1 AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.1GHz 3GB RAM ATi 3850 512mb This is how I have the settings in GTA IV: Resolution: 1600x1200 Texture quality: Medium Render quality: Highest Shadow quality: High Water quality: High Reflection quality: High View distance: 24 Detail distance: 100 Vehicle Density: 40 Shadow Density: 0 Note: this is just from memory, but I'm pretty sure this is how my settings look. According to FRAPS, I consistently get 20fps, with the occasional slight drop during intense gameplay. The game is extremely playable and looks great. My rig also plays my other games (Test Drive Unlimited, GTR2, Live for Speed, rFactor, Richard Burns Rally, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas) all at max settings usually getting 30-60fps. The reason you're getting such crappy frames is purely because of your graphics card. A 3450 isn't anywhere near as good as a 3850. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) What resolution is your monitor? On my HD 3450, putting 1440 x 900 (My native monitor resolution) on low settings brings the game to 5 FPS. But on 800 x 600 I get a good playable frame rate with medium settings. My monitor is 20" and runs at 1600x1200 My specs are as follows: Vista 32 SP1 AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.1GHz 3GB RAM ATi 3850 512mb This is how I have the settings in GTA IV: Resolution: 1600x1200 Texture quality: Medium Render quality: Highest Shadow quality: High Water quality: High Reflection quality: High View distance: 24 Detail distance: 100 Vehicle Density: 40 Shadow Density: 0 Note: this is just from memory, but I'm pretty sure this is how my settings look. According to FRAPS, I consistently get 20fps, with the occasional slight drop during intense gameplay. The game is extremely playable and looks great. My rig also plays my other games (Test Drive Unlimited, GTR2, Live for Speed, rFactor, Richard Burns Rally, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas) all at max settings usually getting 30-60fps. The reason you're getting such crappy frames is purely because of your graphics card. A 3450 isn't anywhere near as good as a 3850. Mine something like Resolution: 800x600 Texture quality: Medium Render quality: medium Shadow quality: low Water quality: low Reflection quality: low View distance: 40 Detail distance: 50 Vehicle Density: 30 Shadow Density: 2 I'm getting like 20 FPS (according to my Fraps), which enough to see fluid movement. Well you just convinced me, I think might consider the 3850, its only around $100 USD. maby buy 2 and put them CrossFirex. That would 640 Stream processors for only $200 This is model I'm looking at. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/sea...D&body=MAIN Edited February 21, 2009 by Sabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Go for this: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/sea...42&csid=_21 It's only $7 more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Go for this:http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/sea...42&csid=_21 It's only $7 more expensive. Good observation that site has alot of stuff. I would not of noticed. I'm going to order 2 of these. I'll put them in crossfire and post a benchmark video. oh look what I found. HD 4670 1GB DDR3 For the same price! http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=3669 Edit: crap but that is only memory interface 128-bit and does not come with Crossfire bridge connector. I think I'll stick with the one you linked. Edited February 21, 2009 by Sabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustADummy Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 yeah it should be alright although that 8500gt will hold you back. This is true I got one too, and whenever my PC has a memory-leak it affects the GFX card and also, I can't get 30fps for shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Processor: Intel Core Duo 1.8ghzGraphics: Intel GMA950 256mb (Yes, I'm on a laptop ) RAM: 4GB OS: Vista While you have more than enough RAM and your processor is (just) good enough, there is no way that you will ever get the game running on integrated Intel graphics, sorry. Since it's a laptop, I'm not sure if you can replace the graphics card or not, someone else will have to confirm this. I thought that would be the case And I don't think you can replace it, I'm fairly sure it's built right in with the motherboard, & I don't really wan't to replace that as I'm getting a new computer soon anyway. Laptops are not good for high end graphics games like GTA IV. The video cards that can fit into the Mini PCI slots on there can't really pack a punch you know what I mean, since there so small. I dont even where you can buy a video cards for laptops. If you can at all. Edited February 21, 2009 by Sabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Good observation that site has alot of stuff. I would not of noticed. I'm going to order 2 of these. I'll put them in crossfire and post a benchmark video.oh look what I found. HD 4670 1GB DDR3 For the same price! http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=3669 Edit: crap but that is only memory interface 128-bit and does not come with Crossfire bridge connector. I think I'll stick with the one you linked. Good choice, the 4670 isn't as good as the 3870 (the second number is more important than the first number). I wish graphics cards were that cheap over here in England. One of those would cost £120 over here. I know the exchange rate isn't that good any more, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ray Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Well, everybody here will be pleased to know that I have listened to their advice, searched for a better GPU, and I found this one, which seems to be an amazing deal, which I will therefore get. You will all be very surprised to know that it's an ATI. Perhaps it'll run IV with everything on MAX..... (Or near MAX @ 1920x1200) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102813 Edited February 21, 2009 by raybob95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookeh Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Well I'll be getting a new laptop soon, should run GTA: IV full settings no problem, but thought I'd check here first. Here's the specs: Alienware m15x CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz (3MB Cache 800MHz FSB) GPU: 256MB NVidia® GeForce® 8600M GT OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit HDD: 160GB 7200 RPM SATA Disk Drive: 8x Dual Layer Writer Sound Card: Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) Wireless Card: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card RAM: 1GB (Will upgrade, but not alienware ram, it's friggin expensive!) Price: £960 I'm willing to fork out a bit extra for 512MB NVidia® GeForce® 8700M GT or 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 is the GPU isn't enough. Edited February 22, 2009 by Spookeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyde Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Well I'll be getting a new laptop soon, should run GTA: IV full settings no problem, but thought I'd check here first. Here's the specs:Alienware m15x CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz (3MB Cache 800MHz FSB) GPU: 256MB NVidia® GeForce® 8600M GT OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit HDD: 160GB 7200 RPM SATA Disk Drive: 8x Dual Layer Writer Sound Card: Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) Wireless Card: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card RAM: 1GB (Will upgrade, but not alienware ram, it's friggin expensive!) Price: £960 I'm willing to fork out a bit extra for 512MB NVidia® GeForce® 8700M GT or 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 is the GPU isn't enough. Not on full settings. Low at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Well I'll be getting a new laptop soon, should run GTA: IV full settings no problem, but thought I'd check here first. Here's the specs:Alienware m15x CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz (3MB Cache 800MHz FSB) GPU: 256MB NVidia® GeForce® 8600M GT OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit HDD: 160GB 7200 RPM SATA Disk Drive: 8x Dual Layer Writer Sound Card: Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) Wireless Card: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card RAM: 1GB (Will upgrade, but not alienware ram, it's friggin expensive!) Price: £960 I'm willing to fork out a bit extra for 512MB NVidia® GeForce® 8700M GT or 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 is the GPU isn't enough. 256MB is not enough. The Textures on medium settings takes like 300MB of Video ram itself. Try for the 512MB Edited February 22, 2009 by Sabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding a ling Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Can my pc run GTA IV on highest setings or at least on high settings? Proccesor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core 5000 2.5 Ghz Motherboard: ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI Graphic Card: ASUS HD3450 256MB Memory: 2048MB DDR2 800MHz Harddrive: 320GB SATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookeh Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 What's the huge difference between the 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GT & the 8700M GT, apart from the £163 price difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Can my pc run GTA IV on highest setings or at least on high settings?Proccesor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core 5000 2.5 Ghz Motherboard: ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI Graphic Card: ASUS HD3450 256MB Memory: 2048MB DDR2 800MHz Harddrive: 320GB SATA Everything is not bad, but your video card is going to let you down. You wont beable to play GTA 4 with that video card properly or at all. Get a HD 3870 512MB or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding a ling Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Can my pc run GTA IV on highest setings or at least on high settings?Proccesor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core 5000 2.5 Ghz Motherboard: ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI Graphic Card: ASUS HD3450 256MB Memory: 2048MB DDR2 800MHz Harddrive: 320GB SATA Everything is not bad, but your video card is going to let you down. You wont beable to play GTA 4 with that video card properly or at all. Get a HD 3870 512MB or higher. Lets say I have 512 MB will it work on highest settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Lets say I have 512 MB will it work on highest settings? No, you would need at least a 3850 or 3870 for it to play at medium settings. Even then, you should think about buying another GB of RAM. You do not need the game on the highest settings. Medium settings on GTA IV are the equivalent of max settings on most other new games. The highest settings are for future technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding a ling Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 CPU: AMD Phenom Quad Core 9550 2.4 Ghz M.Board: Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 Memory: DDR-2 4Gb 800 MHz Hard Drives: 500Gb Sata-2 Video: ATI RADEON 4850 512Mb On what settings GTA IV will run on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) CPU: AMD Phenom Quad Core 9550 2.4 GhzM.Board: Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 Memory: DDR-2 4Gb 800 MHz Hard Drives: 500Gb Sata-2 Video: ATI RADEON 4850 512Mb On what settings GTA IV will run on? I'm going to say most settings on high. Edited February 22, 2009 by davesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabin Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Can my pc run GTA IV on highest setings or at least on high settings?Proccesor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core 5000 2.5 Ghz Motherboard: ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI Graphic Card: ASUS HD3450 256MB Memory: 2048MB DDR2 800MHz Harddrive: 320GB SATA Everything is not bad, but your video card is going to let you down. You wont beable to play GTA 4 with that video card properly or at all. Get a HD 3870 512MB or higher. Lets say I have 512 MB will it work on highest settings? No I have a HD 3450 512MB and can only play on 800 x 600, well check the last page back. I say somewhere. It will work though. But if you want high settings get a HD 3870 or higher. Btw why is your name quoting as ICECOLDNIG? Edited February 22, 2009 by Sabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookeh Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Another possible new computer is this: Intel® Core™ i7 920 Quad Core Processor (2.66GHz,8MB Cache,4.8GT/s) 6GB 1333MHz Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM - ( 3x2GB ) 2x 1GB ATi 4670 Graphics accelerator (CrossFire for Ultimate Gaming) Samsung 22x Dual Layer DVD Writer Other GPU options are: 1GB ATI HD4670 Graphics accelerator 1GB NVIDIA GeForce with CUDA 9600GT 1GB NVIDIA GeForce with CUDA GTX280 Or at the very edge of my budget, 2GB ATi Radeon HD4870X2 Edited February 22, 2009 by Spookeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 That will be fine, but definitely go for a 4870X2 or GTX280. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesta Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If a 4870X2 is stretching your budget, why not go for a single 4870? Do not get the 9600 or 4670. They are nowhere near as good as a GTX280 or 4870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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