Your Religion / Beliefs

[Connor]

I guess it's that...

There is always Wikipedia if you want moar.

[Noxfaratos]

I believe that if in fact a god does exist. He doesn't care if you believe in him, pray, read the bible or have any religious affiliation what so ever. I think that to get into heaven (If there is one), just be a good person. Be kind, compassionate, accept everyone (namely gays, transsexuals, minorities). Just my beliefs. I am a Unitarian Universalist.

That's practically how I am as well but I don't know whether god exists or not and if there is heaven or hell. I just try to be as good a person I can be, and yeah I'm going to make mistakes but that happens and you learn from you mistakes, and you become a better person from it. Theoretically at least - I suppose you need a decent level of maturity to actually learn from your mistakes.

BTW, what's a Unitarian Universalist?

Pretty much what i just said. Unitarian Universalists don't idolize a god, but good people.

[NMP boy]

I am a hindu but i'm with you on that chris , i feel just the same way like U do

[kokane]

does anyone here believe in reincarnation?

because I recently read a lil about it and I started believing in it because it offered me some answers to some questions that the religion apparently cannot answer. I dont usually believe in things that have no logic, and because the religion wasnt able to provide me with logical explanations, I started looking for answers on my own, and I found some in astrology.

I have a question if any of you could answer. If God created us, the man should be the most important creation, the essence. Why is this so important creation of his so small compared to the whole Universe. You probably know that Earth is soo little compared to other planets, the Sun itself is like a proton compared to other stars. Don't you think we're a little selfish to think we are the center of the Universe?

[Spaz The Great]

I believe in reincarnation, but I don't believe in new souls. Not in the sense of new souls just appearing. I believe everything that is, was, and always will be.

[Bear]

I believe in reincarnation, it just makes logical sense to me. Geology has pretty much disproven the idea of God creating the Earth. Priests estimated that the Earth should be 6000 years old, but Geology has proven its billions. Also the obvious is Evolution. I just feel that we experience so much in our lives surely it would be a waste to just die and leave it behind, or maybe its because I am scared of dying and like to believe there is something more after death.

[kokane]

I think that if our souls would have only one life, then why is it so easy to die? It should have been more valuable if it's that important. So reincarnation makes alot of sense. You learn from your life experiences in order to make your soul grow and evolve. I think that's the essence of life, to learn and to make your soul reach its highest form. I've always had a passion for astrology and believe it or not, the stars influence us. I've read around 100 pages about my natal chart, and they described me better then I could myself. I believe there's a reason for everything. And actually karmic astrology explained why I am the way I am.

You might say it's a stupid question or presumption, but I was wondering...I think the stars or lets say the celestial objects are a very interesting thing to study, and what if these forms of energy are actually souls waiting to reincarnate?

[Connor]

This is for anyone who isn't an Atheist yet: http://www.evilbible.com/

If you can worship that, you're a sick bastard.

Edited July 3, 2009 by Connor

[ToonSkull]

does anyone here believe in reincarnation?

I believe in recycled souls. Not that you come back as a rat or a dung beetle but as human.

because I recently read a lil about it and I started believing in it because it offered me some answers to some questions that the religion apparently cannot answer. I dont usually believe in things that have no logic, and because the religion wasnt able to provide me with logical explanations, I started looking for answers on my own, and I found some in astrology.

There are actually few religions that don't believe in reincarnation on some level. To make life fair, such as the deaths young people, I believe a system is in place to recycle the soul and give it another shot. I think Catholics believe the unbaptized soul of a child goes to limbo. I am not catholic just going by something I heard.

I have a question if any of you could answer. If God created us, the man should be the most important creation, the essence. Why is this so important creation of his so small compared to the whole Universe. You probably know that Earth is soo little compared to other planets, the Sun itself is like a proton compared to other stars. Don't you think we're a little selfish to think we are the center of the Universe?

I believe God created a universe full of life. Why does one create anything? You create stories, pictures, games to entertain and amuse. This little fragment of life (humans) will die, and I believe we will be given the ability to create our own worlds in this vast universe. Children of our own to watch, to laugh at, or cry over. Think of the universe as the untouched canvas.

[Connor]

No Christians replied to my link yet?

Once again, if you do believe in the God that the bible potrays, meaning you're a Christian, you're worshipping a God that promotes rape, murder, child abuse, the lot. It's proven, it's right there, in the bible. If you don't think it's true, then how are you a Christian, you're not believing what's in the bible? You choose not to live your life discriminating against and killing other people for their differences(gender/belief/anything)? Does that make you a sinner?

God is contradictory and hypocritical, I'm pretty sure he/she has even actually contradicted his contradictions somewhere, this is all PROVEN BY THE BIBLE.

I never understood the shit about Atheists not having morals either, because incase anyone hasn't noticed, most of the smartest people(philosophers, more scientists) have been Atheists and generally peaceful individuals dedicating their life to revealing more about the universe and the world to future generations, not worshipping over some dirty fucking bastard who thinks that children should go to hell for having a different opinion than their parents on something, since when did Atheists commit genocide either??

This does not mean that I deny God, just I'm certain that the God that Christians refer to is a cunt and can't exist due the contradictions present in the bible and life.

Edited July 4, 2009 by Connor

[Azazel]

Connor is correct the Western Bible is misleading and I urge him to explore his faith in the true prophet Muhammad. I agree with Connor you have the right to choose your faith. I found his comment true.

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! Allah Almighty Said: "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' - From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8" The Revised Standard Version makes even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. - From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8"

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Without being inappropriate to Americans and Westerners but most of them lack morals and do all kinds of sexual sinning such as sex without marriage and sodomy which are reasons that Allah Almighty had drowned the people of Lot and Noah in the past for. Nude beaches, bikinis (exposing 99% of the woman's body), living together without marriage (boyfriend and girlfriend), porn business, oral sex, mixing genders in grade and high schools to promote sexuality among teenage kids are all indications of a satanic and sexually open society. They even condone satanism under the freedom of religion.

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their works or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then: WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!!

I have now told you what I believe and since this is a site corrupt with the Western Christian influences I suspect I will be banned for posting my beliefs in a forum where, you asked, what I religion believe. If you did not wish to know you should not ask.

Azazel

[RAPTORX22]

Christian.

[Ivan]

Connor is correct the Western Bible is misleading and I urge him to explore his faith in the true prophet Muhammad. I agree with Connor you have the right to choose your faith. I found his comment true.

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! Allah Almighty Said: "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' - From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8" The Revised Standard Version makes even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. - From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8"

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Without being inappropriate to Americans and Westerners but most of them lack morals and do all kinds of sexual sinning such as sex without marriage and sodomy which are reasons that Allah Almighty had drowned the people of Lot and Noah in the past for. Nude beaches, bikinis (exposing 99% of the woman's body), living together without marriage (boyfriend and girlfriend), porn business, oral sex, mixing genders in grade and high schools to promote sexuality among teenage kids are all indications of a satanic and sexually open society. They even condone satanism under the freedom of religion.

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their works or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then: WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!!

I have now told you what I believe and since this is a site corrupt with the Western Christian influences I suspect I will be banned for posting my beliefs in a forum where, you asked, what I religion believe. If you did not wish to know you should not ask.

Azazel

Lol, fine.

You are even more ignorant than some christians.

[rockstarrem]

Connor is correct the Western Bible is misleading and I urge him to explore his faith in the true prophet Muhammad. I agree with Connor you have the right to choose your faith. I found his comment true.

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! Allah Almighty Said: "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' - From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8" The Revised Standard Version makes even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. - From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8"

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Without being inappropriate to Americans and Westerners but most of them lack morals and do all kinds of sexual sinning such as sex without marriage and sodomy which are reasons that Allah Almighty had drowned the people of Lot and Noah in the past for. Nude beaches, bikinis (exposing 99% of the woman's body), living together without marriage (boyfriend and girlfriend), porn business, oral sex, mixing genders in grade and high schools to promote sexuality among teenage kids are all indications of a satanic and sexually open society. They even condone satanism under the freedom of religion.

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their works or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then: WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!!

I have now told you what I believe and since this is a site corrupt with the Western Christian influences I suspect I will be banned for posting my beliefs in a forum where, you asked, what I religion believe. If you did not wish to know you should not ask.

Azazel

Lol, fine.

You are even more ignorant than some christians.

Is he even a Christian? I thought Muhammed was Middle Eastern or some shit.

[Ivan]

Connor is correct the Western Bible is misleading and I urge him to explore his faith in the true prophet Muhammad. I agree with Connor you have the right to choose your faith. I found his comment true.

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! Allah Almighty Said: "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' - From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8" The Revised Standard Version makes even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. - From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8"

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Without being inappropriate to Americans and Westerners but most of them lack morals and do all kinds of sexual sinning such as sex without marriage and sodomy which are reasons that Allah Almighty had drowned the people of Lot and Noah in the past for. Nude beaches, bikinis (exposing 99% of the woman's body), living together without marriage (boyfriend and girlfriend), porn business, oral sex, mixing genders in grade and high schools to promote sexuality among teenage kids are all indications of a satanic and sexually open society. They even condone satanism under the freedom of religion.

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their works or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then: WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!!

I have now told you what I believe and since this is a site corrupt with the Western Christian influences I suspect I will be banned for posting my beliefs in a forum where, you asked, what I religion believe. If you did not wish to know you should not ask.

Azazel

Lol, fine.

You are even more ignorant than some christians.

Is he even a Christian? I thought Muhammed was Middle Eastern or some shit.

I didn't say he was a Christian,I just meant that what he said was bulshit.

[Spaz The Great]

Connor is correct the Western Bible is misleading and I urge him to explore his faith in the true prophet Muhammad. I agree with Connor you have the right to choose your faith. I found his comment true.

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! Allah Almighty Said: "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' - From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8" The Revised Standard Version makes even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. - From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8"

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

Without being inappropriate to Americans and Westerners but most of them lack morals and do all kinds of sexual sinning such as sex without marriage and sodomy which are reasons that Allah Almighty had drowned the people of Lot and Noah in the past for. Nude beaches, bikinis (exposing 99% of the woman's body), living together without marriage (boyfriend and girlfriend), porn business, oral sex, mixing genders in grade and high schools to promote sexuality among teenage kids are all indications of a satanic and sexually open society. They even condone satanism under the freedom of religion.

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their works or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then: WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!!

I have now told you what I believe and since this is a site corrupt with the Western Christian influences I suspect I will be banned for posting my beliefs in a forum where, you asked, what I religion believe. If you did not wish to know you should not ask.

Azazel

I will have sex with who I want, when I want, how I want. And your god won't tell me otherwise. My girlfriend and I have been living together for over a year, we've had vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, you name it. We look at porn, we take pornographic pictures of ourselves and each other. We smoke, we drink, we partake in other drugs. We do not, however, wrong someone unprovoked...

The stuff you listed that you seemingly think should be some of the biggest sins ever, are unimportant and irrelevant to leading a good life. Are equating pre-marital sex to murder?

Your religion is probably corrupt, too. Unless you follow a non-hypocritical, unbiased religion with little to no flaws, you have no room to down-talk other people's religions.

[ToonSkull]

The stuff you listed that you seemingly think should be some of the biggest sins ever, are unimportant and irrelevant to leading a good life. Are equating pre-marital sex to murder?

Your religion is probably corrupt, too. Unless you follow a non-hypocritical, unbiased religion with little to no flaws, you have no room to down-talk other people's religions.

Excuse me Super Mod, I thought we aren't supposed to argue in this topic? As Chris said, or you will be suspended.

I am not Islamic but I have friends who are and I take serious offense to this stereotypical remark. Just because the Mafia are Catholics doesn't make all Catholics Mafia members. I may not agree with Azazel's remarks, hell my friends who are Islamic are more likely to disagree with him. But to bash an entire religion because one man push your button is not what the topic is meant. Chris can correct me if I am wrong, but I assume this topic was meant to share ideas and belief. Not to beat people over the head with their own version of the Bible. This is why I ignored Connor in the first place, he is looking to debate and with me there is no debate.

Finally I wish to address the person known as Azazel. I don't know if you will ever be back to read this but what the Hell are you doing joining a GTA FORUM! My friends refuse to play the game because of their religious devotion. The kids aren't allowed on the internet so you must be an ADULT or a kid playing at being Islamic. The first big hint is the name you chose. No true muslim would use it. Azazel the goat demon from the desert?!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel

If you come back you might want to address the Quran with certain verses. My copy (yes I own a copy) my friend gave me as a gift, says even Christians such as myself and the Jews will go to heaven;

"Those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabaeans and the Christians, all who believe in God and the Last Day and act rightly will feel no fear and will know no sorrow." Quran, 5:69

Sorry about that it doesn't say anything about atheists.

Ah, I am probably spinning my wheels here, but I am NOT HERE to debate my beliefs. But a good follower of Islam won't come pounding on your door forcing the religion on you. That is also against their beliefs and why I say Azazel is a one post wonder. I doubt he will come back here.

To everyone who flamed Azazel, I find it disappointing that many of you are older than me and obviously under educated.

[MrLlamaLlama]

If you come back you might want to address the Quran with certain verses. My copy (yes I own a copy) my friend gave me as a gift, says even Christians such as myself and the Jews will go to heaven;

"Those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabaeans and the Christians, all who believe in God and the Last Day and act rightly will feel no fear and will know no sorrow." Quran, 5:69

Sorry about that it doesn't say anything about atheists.

I'm not sure atheists are worried that the quran says they won't go to heaven... think about it. I write a book saying you won't go to heaven, you're not worried...

I don't see why religion must dictate what people outside of that religion choose to do. I was born capable of making my own decisions and I damn well will.

Excuse me Super Mod [spaz] , I thought we aren't supposed to argue in this topic?

I lol'd. Hard.

[Chris]

No one else thinking "Azazel" is a troll? I mean come on... first post is that?

[MrLlamaLlama]

If he is a troll, he's a pretty bad one. A good troll's 'victims' know they've been trolled. Asking Connor to embrace religion was pretty funny though...

[JAB HacksouL]

This is why I never discuss my religion or politics, they lead to fear. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense a disturbance in the force.

JAB

[Lord Of GTA]

I'm a strong muslim and have a strong believe in God and his last prophet

Hazrat Muhummed(SAW) and all prophets which god had sent to earth for showing right path of virtue

Islam is the greatest religion and Allah is greatest

Sure, that's why a lot of their followers kill innocent people everyday.

Are you stupid ?

The people who kill innocent people are terrorists not its followers !

Just like your Holy Book Bible, we too have a Holy Book called Quran. Its clearly written in that killing innocent people is totally against Islam and God will never forgive them !

So think before posting !

@SpazTheGreat: First things first.Spaz thanks for supporting me !

@Connor: Lol by saying that I didn't mean that there is only one religion and/or respect only one religion.

I respect all the religions in the world the same as mine. In fact, many people around the world agree

that there is only one God.Only the way of worshipping God is different.I also do believe in people who do not believe in God !

I'm a strong muslim and have a strong believe in God and his last prophet

Hazrat Muhummed(SAW) and all prophets which god had sent to earth for showing right path of virtue

Islam is the greatest religion and Allah is greatest

Sure, that's why a lot of their followers kill innocent people everyday.

Are you stupid ?

The people who kill innocent people are terrorists not its followers !

Just like your Holy Book Bible, we too have a Holy Book called Quran. Its clearly written in that killing innocent people is totally against Islam and God will never forgive them !

So think before posting !

hmm... but according to a terrorist muslim group in my country who fights the government, their fight against the Philippine government is a jihad or holy war.... they kill innocent people yet they think it is right. I think extremists need a better understanding in their religion's teachings

Eazy

No, I am not stupid and you're the one who should think before posting, how do you even know I am Christian? Because I'm not. And you are right about there being terrorists but there are also many extremists that kill people in the name of God and that is a fact.

Now we should get back on topic.

I'm not a big fan of religion, I do believe that there is someone like God out there, I just don't believe we know of his existence yet.

Both of You Calm Down eazy is right connor you are stupid you cant say bullshit to any one on his religion i'm also a strict Muslim And For me Islam is only the religion i only believe in Islam and yeah islam is greatest and Allah is greatest for me

@Ivan you are saying us a terrorist we aren't a terrorist you are all terrorist get out from here you don't have the authority to say any one terrorist if you don't have any proof if you sa us terrorist then prove it and killing the innocent peoples is against Islam if any one killes any innocent peoples then he is not a muslim because a true muslim Loves the peoples not he killes them i think you don't even know about Islam you have to research about islam after surely you will know that the islam is greatest "So please if you Don't Know About Islam Don't Talk About Islam without any Research " hope you understand if you say next time that muslims are killing innocent peoples i wold like to request admins then please ban them now they should Sorry to us Because they hurted all muslims

Edited July 13, 2009 by Lord Of GTA

[Ivan]

Lol at me being a terrorist....

And no proof? Just watch the news and maybe you'll see things the way they really are, or maybe you just don't want to.

You seem like you're pretty sure Alah is the greatest,etc.... so I won't even try to change your mind, it's not my job to do that.

You continue to worship your religion, that like most, is corrupt and flawed. I don't give a shit and I'm pretty sure other don't aswell, just don't start screaming Alah is the greatest, you should be a bit more open minded. Have you ever even questioned your beliefs?

Why is it that this topic is now being "invaded" by muslims? Did we really hurt you in any way?

[ToonSkull]

Okay once more children... I am going to explain this in the most simple terms so you can understand. Would you call David Koresh is the perfect example of Christians? He said he was a born-again Christian in the Southern Baptist Church and joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church. How about Jim Jones? Who lead a whole church in Guyana and sponsored the largest mass suicides in history. Adolph Hitler? These are NOT good examples of Christians. Just as terrorists are not good examples of Islam.

I admit I am surprised "The Lord of GTA" is Muslim. The few I know are not permitted to play this game due to the violence and prostitution. But I guess the same could be said of some strict Christian homes. My parents are not strict, but I am not about to imitate the game either. Islamic teachings are very strict against many things we call "guilty pleasures". They have more commandments to live by than I care to mention.

The Quran is very clear that there must be "no compulsion in religion" 2:256

Do you have Muslims pounding on your door like the Jehova Witness? No. They welcome anyone into their religion and don't force it upon you. I am not Muslim but happy to call these people my friends.

Please view the following if you desire to learn more:

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/beliefs/other.htm

[Lord Of GTA]

Would you call David Koresh is the perfect example of Christians? He said he was a born-again Christian in the Southern Baptist Church and joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church. How about Jim Jones? Who lead a whole church in Guyana and sponsored the largest mass suicides in history. Adolph Hitler? These are NOT good examples of Christians. Just as terrorists are not good examples of Islam.

Exactly What i was saying thank you "ToonSkull" for gving this simpl and very good example

@Ivan man i'm just saying that that the terrorist and lot of our muslims aren't the good example of Islam if you want to know about Islam you research in Prophet Muhummed(SAW) Life because he is the right Model Of islam we the muslim Unfortunately do not follow rightly the rules of islam there are no words in Our Holy Book "Quran " that killing innocent people is right and you mentioned about News on TV Man Media is the Production of USA not our Muslims And USA And Israel is Against The Muslims

You are saying that Muslims are killing innocent peoples but i think you don't know about "Philistine" a muslim contry in Middle East The Israel occupied Forcely on it you don't know because no news of this comes to TV because they are Jews Not Muslims Israelis killing innocent peoples and Childs Is That Right and they are Rapping Muslim women and Girls Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OH MY God is that Right have you ever seen at least one News on TV :pissedred: