Format : Blue-Ray vs HD-DVD vs DVD

[Ciaran]

First off, I didn't know where to put this. So if it is in the wrong place then please move it

I personally think Blue-Ray has this "battle" won. It can hold a lot more than normal DVD's. What is your opinion?

[CroScorpion]

Of curse Blue-Ray for me.

It have more space, I think it is faster and only bat thing is expensiveness.

Edit: Maybe, PC Chat, but PS3 can use it too, so maybe Entertainment.

Edited April 16, 2007 by CroScorpion

[Pandora]

You mean HD-DVD, right?

If I wanted to put my data on a CD I'd prefer (HD-)DVD to Blu-Ray.

[The Bossman]

As Jace said, if you mean HD-DVD then I prefer Blu-Ray because it has superior picture quality, better sound and much more room for extra features, and yes, this does belong in Entertainment.

Edited April 16, 2007 by the bossman

[Gerard]

There are three current versatile formats: Blu-Ray (not blue-), HD-DVD (hi def DVD) and the good old DVD.

The battle is between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD - both formats can hold a lot more data than DVDs, but different companies support different formats. Some think that the Blu-Ray disks are better because of their larger capacity, others think the HD DVDs are more reliable and cheaper.

The most notable devices are the Xbox 360 supporting HD DVD, and the PlayStation 3 having a Blu-Ray drive. Personally, I would go for HD-DVD. Storing 50gb of data on one fragile disk is a little too risky for me.

LG is launching their new Super Multi Blue tomorrow at a launch event in London which we (Shock Gadgets) are attending.

Moved to PC Chat. Poll edited to include HD-DVD.

[Red_91]

I think that Blu-Ray is better because it stores upto 50GB on a dual layered blu ray disc and also it is quite good, even if its scratched it still works fine and I know this as my cousins have Motorstorm for PS3 and that is scratched as fu** and works fine.

[Spaz The Great]

I think that Blu-Ray is better because it stores upto 50GB on a dual layered blu ray disc and also it is quite good, even if its scratched it still works fine and I know this as my cousins have Motorstorm for PS3 and that is scratched as fu** and works fine.

That has nothing to do with the Blu-ray disk. My VC has more scratched surface than non-scratched, as in, it's TOTALLED, but I can still play it.

DVD still works just fine for me. As I say all the time, we don't need 50GBs of storage on a disk..... And if storage is what you're about, look up on Google about the terrabyte DVDs being produced. Yeah, Blu-ray will shit itself when a DVD working in a standard DVD drive with more then 10 times it's capacity works in a standard dvd player((y'know, those 20 dollar players at Walmart?))....

[MrLlamaLlama]

^ yeah, aren't they being developed with like proteins, or somethin like that, i dunno, maight have got confused since i read it a whikle back, but yeah, blu-ray is headin' to be a one -hit wonder, and another problem for sony. And another thing they forked out for that probably wont be used in a console again.

EDIT: it was chatting complete BS, it's actually advances in laser technology....

That’s right, scientists have “developed some advances in laser technology that could actually make disc drives cheaper and more portable — along with the obvious benefits of 1TB of storage and speedier read/write times.”

These lasers can interact with 3D materials — such as the multiple layers on a disc, or even a storage “cube” — without interference from the solid material, providing for more durable and more dense storage

Courtesy of www.techeblog.com

Edited April 16, 2007 by MrLlamaLlama

[chris82]

True. Blu-Ray is unnecessary garbage. Same with HD-DVD. Until game developers start making textures at the 8+ megapixel level, we don't need that shit.

[Gycu]

DVD-Present

Blu-Ray->future

The DVD appeared in 1997 ( or earlier) and only after 6+ years it was common used to replace the CD, I think the same thing will happen with blu-ray, so I chose DVD, the present is safer than the future!

You`ll see a game on a Blu-Ray disk in about 10 years or later...till then stick with the DVD

[Spaz The Great]

DVD-Present

Blu-Ray->future

The DVD appeared in 1997 ( or earlier) and only after 6+ years it was common used to replace the CD, I think the same thing will happen with blu-ray, so I chose DVD, the present is safer than the future!

You`ll see a game on a Blu-Ray disk in about 10 years or later...till then stick with the DVD

Um, PS3 much? Aren't they kind of currently using Blu-ray disks for them? O.o

[surrealistic ArtSweet]

okay guys, let me clear one thing here:

-first of all, hd-dvd is more cost effective than blue ray, it's not very expensive

-second of all, ps3 is a sinking ship, that means, by so many predictions, microsoft is gonna win this battle of the next gen console, maybe for some of you PS3 is the thing of the future, but lets face it, future is long ahead of us, and some of us can't afford PS3, esspecially the blu-ray disc!!!

don't you heard? in europe, many of the PS3 features are cut off, gone! and that include the graphic sinethyzer(don't know how to spell it right) and other ports!

and finally, hd-dvd is our future right now, maybe for the next 10 years blu-ray will dominate it, but i guarantee that it's not going to happen now!

[MrLlamaLlama]

okay guys, let me clear one thing here:

-first of all, hd-dvd is more cost effective than blue ray, it's not very expensive

-second of all, ps3 is a sinking ship, that means, by so many predictions, microsoft is gonna win this battle of the next gen console, maybe for some of you PS3 is the thing of the future, but lets face it, future is long ahead of us, and some of us can't afford PS3, esspecially the blu-ray disc!!!

don't you heard? in europe, many of the PS3 features are cut off, gone! and that include the graphic sinethyzer(don't know how to spell it right) and other ports!

and finally, hd-dvd is our future right now, maybe for the next 10 years blu-ray will dominate it, but i guarantee that it's not going to happen now!

No they're not, this is only with the 20gb PS3, which sony aren't even producing anymore, so go spread utter crap somewhere else...

And like 4 people i know have PS3's, no lack of extra's, ports, wifi..etc.

[Pandora]

True. Blu-Ray is unnecessary garbage. Same with HD-DVD. Until game developers start making textures at the 8+ megapixel level, we don't need that shit.

Fsim X.

Never going to be for a console though, but it's a good example to show.

But then it would still actually be a waste using a HD-DVD or a Blu-Ray disc for it, since it 'only' requires 14 gig.

[Spaz The Great]

True. Blu-Ray is unnecessary garbage. Same with HD-DVD. Until game developers start making textures at the 8+ megapixel level, we don't need that shit.

Fsim X.

Never going to be for a console though, but it's a good example to show.

But then it would still actually be a waste using a HD-DVD or a Blu-Ray disc for it, since it 'only' requires 14 gig.

O.O That's a big ass game! I guess if it was produced for a console you could just use a quad-layer DVD then.

[Pandora]

First off, I didn't know where to put this. So if it is in the wrong place then please move it

I personally think Blue-Ray has this "battle" won. It can hold a lot more than normal DVD's. What is your opinion?

Well this is actually just a quote post, but who cares.

"Columbus (OH) - We're soon approaching the one year anniversary of each format, and despite the extrapolated outlook for Blu-ray based on where it stands now, there is no end in sight. A climb in Blu-ray movie sales may lead consumers to believe Sony has already beaten HD DVD, but nothing could be further from the truth."

"When I first heard about Blu-ray and HD DVD at the tail end of 2005, my gut reaction was that both formats would flop within a couple years. I imagined that no one would be so easily persuaded to start passing the torch from DVD.

Instead, the two formats have gained name recognition and healthy amounts of shelf space from every big box retailer. I guess I underestimated the explosion of the popularity in and obsession with high definition. Anyway, it has turned into a full-on, fists-out guerilla war, and it's enough to make even the strongest tech heads a little dizzy.

Earlier this week, the HD DVD promotional group announced the mark of the 100,000th player to be sold, a number it took DVD players over two years to reach. However, Blu-ray is magnitudes above that, led chiefly by the PS3. It also continues to take huge leads over HD DVD in terms of movie sales. In fact, today, a Nielsen group that tracks the sales released March figures, putting Blu-ray movies at a 2-to-1 advantage over HD DVD for the third consecutive month. Because of this, some have begun to declare Blu-ray the winner.

Format wars are always ugly sights. Consumers are tricked into thinking the latest and greatest rotating media will revolutionize everything, only to look back three years later and find it in the anique section of eBay. If it's not obvious this is experience talking, maybe I should post a picture of my substantial laserdisc collection.

We saw the exact same thing with Sony's proprietary PSP disc known as UMD. Practically every top studio leaped onto that bandwagon, following a short-lived surge in the portable format. Sony sent press release after press release boasting about sales figures. Today, the company is seemingly under a voluntary gag order to not even mention UMD movies because sales flattened practically overnight. Blu-ray has an eerily similar feel to it. There are, without a doubt, a number of people who bought a PS3 and are testing out the Blu-ray movie player as a novelty. The PS3 counts for more than 75% of all BD players that have been sold, and when this novelty wears off for the non-enthusiasts, it may not be on such an elevated playing ground anymore.

Sony's history with new formats is well documented. Betamax, Super Audio CD, Write-Once optical discs, Super Density discs, Magneto-optical discs, and a handful of others, have all come out of Sony's offices. You can count the number of these that turned out to be big successes by, well, doing absolutely nothing. The answer is zero. Sony's record in format wars is bad, real bad. I don't think that just because over 100,000 people are watching James Bond in high definition on Casino Royale Blu-ray, Sony can declare itself the winner.

Sure, HD DVD has a long way to go to re-establish itself, but it is still out there in a big way. Looking back at history, movie studios have jumped ship from formats, fads have died off with the snap of a finger, and there's always the chance for a unpredictable surprise that changes the game entirely. It's all happened before, and the fact that this format war is so highly publicized just makes every shift so crucial. It'll be at least another year before we know for sure who has the permanent upper hand."

Link: TG Daily

I support HD-DVD so this is quite good news for me.

[GTA Don]

I would choose Blu-ray because I myself own a PS3 and own Casino Royale for Blu-Ray,and the quality is unbelievably good.

[Spaz The Great]

Quite frankly, I think it's possibly to the point where resolution and picture quality aren't even important anymore. Honestly.... Pretty soon our eyes aren't going to be able to process the difference between the "inferior" product and Sony's hyped-up bullshit.

But even disregarding that fact, why is it really that big of a deal? Why is DVD not good enough? This really shouldn't even be about DVD, but I'm simply asking. Why is it a MUST that we have a format that allows us to count a person's hair? Do you do that while watching movies? Do you entirely ignore the storyline and key scenes in order to count the blades of grass currently on screen? Or do you ruin the movie experience by pausing it just for the occasion? Or, the more plausible explanation, you simply enjoy saying your movie/player/game/system/tv/penis is that amazing, regardless of whether you need it to be or can even use it? Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.

[Sherman]

Actually, I prefer VHS, pretty awesome.