Where will Niko store his weapons?

[Alistair]

Okay, there has been a lot of discussion in the forum about the possibility that Niko will have to carry his weapons, either in bags or in the trunk of his car. Although not confirmed, looking at some of the screenshots I think this is a distinct possibility and so I've started this poll on where you think Niko could store his weapons, and then if you think Niko should have to buy his weapons from the black-market somehow (as he isn't an american citizen and as such can't just go to an ammunation) or have to rob an ammunation....enjoy!

[Essi]

I voted :

Trunk; over-shoulder bag; pistol under the shirt ( also for little melee weapons, I think) ; & finally, black market

[Wolfman]

My option wasn't on there...

A duffel bag for ALL of his weapons... It would suck if you could only carry one or 2 weapons at a time

[Alistair]

Dude, have you ever picked up an assault rifle? My freakin air rifle was hard enough to carry, let alone an AK, an M16, an Uzi, a beretta, 30 grenades, 1000 ammo for each, a bazooka, I mean are you kidding me? If they introduce the idea of carrying weapons they may as well make it realistic! You have to carry weapons AND ammo, and there's only so much you can carry - maybe going to the gym can increase the amount of weaponry you can carry? I'd also love to have to carry money, and like in scarface deposit it in bank accounts!

And just think of how it'll effect how you plan a mission - you choose what to bring, how to bring it, whether to bring one weapon and loads of ammo or a few weapons with little ammo, it'd blow open a whole range of possibilities. Of course cheats should exist to spawn weapons and infinite ammo but that's a different matter.

Edited July 5, 2007 by Alistair

[MrLlamaLlama]

Dude, have you ever picked up an assault rifle? My freakin air rifle was hard enough to carry, let alone an AK, an M16, an Uzi, a beretta, 30 grenades, 1000 ammo for each, a bazooka, I mean are you kidding me? If they introduce the idea of carrying weapons they may as well make it realistic! You have to carry weapons AND ammo, and there's only so much you can carry - maybe going to the gym can increase the amount of weaponry you can carry? I'd also love to have to carry money, and like in scarface deposit it in bank accounts!

And just think of how it'll effect how you plan a mission - you choose what to bring, how to bring it, whether to bring one weapon and loads of ammo or a few weapons with little ammo, it'd blow open a whole range of possibilities. Of course cheats should exist to spawn weapons and infinite ammo but that's a different matter.

I love you. And second all of that. Great ideas mate!

[Wolfman]

Dude, have you ever picked up an assault rifle? My freakin air rifle was hard enough to carry, let alone an AK, an M16, an Uzi, a beretta, 30 grenades, 1000 ammo for each, a bazooka, I mean are you kidding me? If they introduce the idea of carrying weapons they may as well make it realistic! You have to carry weapons AND ammo, and there's only so much you can carry - maybe going to the gym can increase the amount of weaponry you can carry? I'd also love to have to carry money, and like in scarface deposit it in bank accounts!

And just think of how it'll effect how you plan a mission - you choose what to bring, how to bring it, whether to bring one weapon and loads of ammo or a few weapons with little ammo, it'd blow open a whole range of possibilities. Of course cheats should exist to spawn weapons and infinite ammo but that's a different matter.

I love you. And second all of that. Great ideas mate!

I don't want it to be THAT realistic, it's quite convenient for the main character to just pull out any random gun he wants... Remember, it's still just a game... Having only a select few weapons you could bring along with you would be annoying... I don't know about anyone else, but I like variety when I'm shooting up 30-50 thugs/baddys (not just 2 or 3 guns)... I want to flame-throw, I want to blast em with bombs and grenades, I want to use my uzi, then my AK, etc etc... It adds to fun of the gameplay... Taking that out of the game will totally destroy the fun to me and I'm sure a few others... Even though the gym idea was good, I don't want just one or 2 weapons on me at all times... I'm not arguing, just discussing, so please don't take offense

[Mrs.Vercetti]

I don't want it to be THAT realistic, it's quite convenient for the main character to just pull out any random gun he wants... Remember, it's still just a game... Having only a select few weapons you could bring along with you would be annoying... I don't know about anyone else, but I like variety when I'm shooting up 30-50 thugs/baddys (not just 2 or 3 guns)... I want to flame-throw, I want to blast em with bombs and grenades, I want to use my uzi, then my AK, etc etc... It adds to fun of the gameplay... Taking that out of the game will totally destroy the fun to me and I'm sure a few others... Even though the gym idea was good, I don't want just one or 2 weapons on me at all times... I'm not arguing, just discussing, so please don't take offense

I do agree, it would take the fun out for alot of gamers and it may be annoying. Going into my into my trunk when I need something dose add to the difficulty especially when I don't know exactly what wepons I need to bring to a mission.

But I don't know I still like the idea.

[Alistair]

Wolfman, nobody is offended.

In my opinion, Rockstar have always wanted realism, so that's why they'll always work to more realistic games, rather than arcade-style games.

I agree that taking out the ridiculous number of guys in current GTA games requires a hell of a lot of weaponry, but that in itself is stupid. I've never tried taking out a gang personally, but I seriously doubt the numbers of people involved are as high as in GTA - if you are raiding a warehouse, maybe there'll be 10-20 guys at most that actually fight, most without weapons - and that's the most you'd ever encounter - a gang in back alley, you kill maybe 5-10 of em and the rest will run off and not return, and nightclubs there'd be 4 armed guards at most, a casino maybe a couple more - it's just crazy to think you're going to have to kill 20-50 people a mission - I mean if that actually happened it'd be like civil war declared and you'd definelty be killed by the cops lol. I think GTAIV is going to be realistic on that front as well, so you can carry only what you can in life, and you only have to kill a few dudes, not cause a mini-holocaust.

InevitableGoat, lol, thanks!

Edited July 5, 2007 by Alistair

[Gycu]

Here is what I think, some of them mentioned in the poll

Melee Weapons: knifes, grenades etc. - inside pockets

Pistols - hide under shirt ( max.4 )

Uzzy/MP5 - duffel bag ( max. 2 each )

M4A1/AK47/Rocketlauncher -these are to big to be stored so the guns must have, what`s the name in English ? well you see in the 2nd trailer, some kind of a belt ... ( problem with the cops when they see Niko`s guns )

As for the ammo in the duffel bag ...

[Wolfman]

But Alistair, that is part of the game though... A sh!t load of weapons to choose from makes for a fun atmosphere... Being able to choose between not just 2 or 3 guns but all of them to use... There were a few missions in the previous gta games where there were a whole lot of bad guys... And what about those who want to get a 6 star warrant by shooting up the streets, ammo would run short on just one gun and it'd be just like saying "Oh that's just a waste of time and money on the game"

[Alistair]

I think the best compromise would be in your safe houses, having like a large arsenal or weaponry, like a hidden weapons room, where you have masses of every type of gun you've bought, you can load up your trunk with them and take them to missions. But in real life, noone carries round that much weaponry!

[Essi]

I think during mission, you only need 2 guns. Well, I do. I start off with a pistol and if there's isn't any kinda cover and I'm under sum heavy fire, I take an auto. Either AK/M-16 or SMG/Uzi. I'm not passing through my whole guns after every waves of ennemies. So, if you can only carry a type of each weapon on you, I think it would add realism and be great.

[Highwire]

I think it'll be like the other gtas except you can also store weapons in bags and at safehouses or in the trunk of a car cuz in the trailer it said you could open the trunk of cars

[Stojko]

I'd prefer if weapons were handled as they were in previous GTA games.

[Alistair]

Well I mean look at movies - take for example The Usual Suspects - they do a bank raid, take the bags for the cash, and just take an assault rifle each, that does them well enough. Otherwise bringing a whole array I mean it's like a woman (not to sexist ) who needs to bring her handbag with tons of makeup "just in case" its pussy-assed, you just bring the weapons you know you'll need because you're supposed to be a professional, and from there go ahead and kick arse.

[Urbanoutlaw]

The weapons room is a good idea, from there you could stock the trunk of a car you're using for missions.

Pick up any weapons dropped by dead peds & put them in the trunk, take them back.

Another improvement would make Ammunation, or a black market able to buy extra weapons.

The biggest thing I hated about Mafia was that you were unarmed until the game gave you something. The only way around

that was to start a mission by running down a cop & taking his .38 (or the occasional shotgun), then you had to get rid if the

cop heat.

[Spaz The Great]

Wolfman, nobody is offended.

In my opinion, Rockstar have always wanted realism, so that's why they'll always work to more realistic games, rather than arcade-style games.

I agree that taking out the ridiculous number of guys in current GTA games requires a hell of a lot of weaponry, but that in itself is stupid. I've never tried taking out a gang personally, but I seriously doubt the numbers of people involved are as high as in GTA - if you are raiding a warehouse, maybe there'll be 10-20 guys at most that actually fight, most without weapons - and that's the most you'd ever encounter - a gang in back alley, you kill maybe 5-10 of em and the rest will run off and not return, and nightclubs there'd be 4 armed guards at most, a casino maybe a couple more - it's just crazy to think you're going to have to kill 20-50 people a mission - I mean if that actually happened it'd be like civil war declared and you'd definelty be killed by the cops lol. I think GTAIV is going to be realistic on that front as well, so you can carry only what you can in life, and you only have to kill a few dudes, not cause a mini-holocaust.

InevitableGoat, lol, thanks!

Um, FOUR bouncers for a nightclub? MAYBE a couple more at a CASINO? Dude, casinos are loaded with bouncers and shit. If you ran a high-class well-known casino in Vegas and had like 10 guards I'd call you a dumbass.

Well I mean look at movies - take for example The Usual Suspects - they do a bank raid, take the bags for the cash, and just take an assault rifle each, that does them well enough. Otherwise bringing a whole array I mean it's like a woman (not to sexist ) who needs to bring her handbag with tons of makeup "just in case" its pussy-assed, you just bring the weapons you know you'll need because you're supposed to be a professional, and from there go ahead and kick arse.

Watch it, buddy, there are females here. One of which I know personally carries "emergency" things like that. Don't knock it, I've seen it in action and it's a smart idea. Just because chicks end up being smarter than us doesn't mean it's "pussy-assed".

And how are you going to use a MOVIE to judge realism? If anything, that's proof it's NOT realistic....

[tilly]

i picked all of the above.

nice mii spaz. the glasses just arent right though.

[#1 canuck fan]

i know where he will put his weapon UP YOUR MOM hehe lol jk man

[tilly]

i also think after a while he should get a connection with the ammunation and then start working for a guy who owns/works at one, and once you finish his missions you get a bunch of new guns and maybe upgrades/customizations (if included)

[7.62mm]

I say put an AK-47 in a briefcase but what was I thinking?!? It wouldnt fit! In the second trailer I really think those bags and trunks come in handy Scare a crowd away when ya open it an arm yourself with a fully automattic AK-47 Kalashnikov

[tilly]

calling an AK an ak47 klashkinov is calling a sw 22 a sw 22 smith and wesson.... oh well. I hope big crowds better interact with guns and shots and stuff like that.

[7.62mm]

Yea I know what you mean man. I just had to add that word at the end. Sounds kinda cool.

[tilly]

hah sure sure. i think you should be able to drop weapons CS style.

[7.62mm]

Yea man that would be sweet.

Edited July 6, 2007 by 7.62mm