Shortbus Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I've HAD it on my laptop, it's fucking awful. But this isn't a vista fight, sorry I even brought it up. Is DX10 only supported on vista, and Crysis requires DX10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Crysis supports DX10 doesn't require it. About Vista, yes it will be shit if you have less than 2GB of RAM. That or more and it's amazing. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claude-5 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) Crysis supports DX10 doesn't require it.About Vista, yes it will be shit if you have less than 2GB of RAM. That or more and it's amazing. End of story. my friend runs Vista on 512 RAM, does brilliant Edited August 17, 2008 by claude-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righty Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I agree with chris. I run vista on one of my laptops and its great. Not a lot of problems. I'm tempted to try the gaming performance with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charger Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) I'm gonna need to upgrade the Video Card that's for sure. How much does it cost to Upgrade? I currently have this: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Graphics with TurboCache with 128MB Also should I keep my Processor? AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHz Is that fine? I'll be upgrading my Ram to 4GB soon. I currently have 2GB. Edited August 19, 2008 by Charger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 It depends on what kind of graphics card you want to buy. Also make sure your motherboard has the correct type of slot...today graphics cards are made using the PCI-express x16 slot. 4850 is $150-$200 USD depending on where you buy it and who the reseller is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeAtH Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 4850 is 200-230$ here. But about Vista, I think its kinda bad too. I have tried it some times but I just didn't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Crysis supports DX10 doesn't require it.About Vista, yes it will be shit if you have less than 2GB of RAM. That or more and it's amazing. End of story. my friend runs Vista on 512 RAM, does brilliant Are you sure you're not talking about Home Basic? I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if I saw a PC running Vista Home Premium/Business/Ultimate etc. with only 512MB RAM. I'm gonna need to upgrade the Video Card that's for sure. How much does it cost to Upgrade? I currently have this: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Graphics with TurboCache with 128MB Also should I keep my Processor? AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHz Is that fine? I'll be upgrading my Ram to 4GB soon. I currently have 2GB. You'll definitely need to upgrade your video card, I think you could run SA at high/very high with AA at 1 smoothly on that. Won't be much for IV though. Also, if you're getting 4GB RAM, it would be good to get a 64-bit OS. And a 64-bit CPU. You might wanna upgrade your CPU, not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claude-5 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Are you sure you're not talking about Home Basic? I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if I saw a PC running Vista Home Premium/Business/Ultimate etc. with only 512MB RAM. i dunno, what vista it is, but it runs just fine on 512 RAM ill ask him when i next see him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX22B1998 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'm gonna need to upgrade the Video Card that's for sure. How much does it cost to Upgrade? I currently have this: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Graphics with TurboCache with 128MB Also should I keep my Processor? AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHz Is that fine? I'll be upgrading my Ram to 4GB soon. I currently have 2GB. yeah unless u get 64bit vista or xp pro x64 , you will only be able to use 3.25gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayerX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) i am sure of it, my PC runs Assassins Creed at high setting (DX9) and it runs really good PC : Intel Core2Duo E4600 2.4Ghz 64Bit (if 64Bit matters..) Nvidia 8800GTS 2GB DDR2 Memory (upgrading to 8GB DDR3 soon) oh yeah, about the vista thing, are you sure IV will come to DX10? i dont think so much.. Edited August 20, 2008 by PlayerX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You really wouldn't see the difference between 4GB and 8GB if you upgraded. 8GB is for people who have more money than sense. It would be crazy to get anything more than 4G (well, 4g is kinda crazy) but trust me, you don't need it. You could save that money to buy an SLI/Crossfire mobo and run dual GFX cards on it. IV won't require DX10, it will probably just support it, like Crysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayerX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) i dont need Dual GFX on my PC.. might be saving money for a new motherboard since my intel motherboard sucks.. at least i had a PCIe on it so i could install my GPU on it.. btw, you think my PC will be able to run IV? (on good setting) Edited August 20, 2008 by PlayerX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLlamaLlama Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You'll be fine runni git on the same settings as you do Assassin's (why oh why did you buy it on PC? ) Assassin's was a gorgeous game, don't think GTAIV looks graphically better than it, to be honest, who knows, maybe you'll get very high / ultra settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayerX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 i run assassins creed on highest setting and a resulotion of 1024x768 at 75 Hz.. upgrading to 4GB DDR3 is quite well.. and i dont think i should upgrade for vista with my current PC (unless getting a new processor also, or overclocking it by buying a new motherboard.) oh, and do you think IV will have better graphics? at the pool (not the ones you jump into it and its full of water!) i saw that they prefer something else.. still better replay will be good. since we wont have to buy software such as Fraps, GameCam etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 So anything socket Am2 will fit into my processor slot?Sorry to repeatedly post, I'm pretty much a nub in hardware. EDIT: I'm also looking for GTA4 to run well, it doesn't have to be maxed out, but I'd like it to run well with few FPS problems. EDIT2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103211 ? Ya better start saving cash now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz The Great Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 You cant compare Crysis to everything, it requires vista, and if you ask me, vista was a big flop. I don't even capitalize it when I type it anymore. 1- Llama is right. It just gives you better graphics (DX10 mode) under Vista. 2- Chris82's point 3- I'm quite sure you haven't even used Vista. I have bought it. Yes, I didn't just get it, I bought it. And I wouldn't go back to XP, ever. The overall experience is better and I find it a very pleasant OS to use. Try it yourself, one day. Somehow it's 'cool' to hate Vista.. bunch of stereotypes. Crysis supports DX10 doesn't require it.About Vista, yes it will be shit if you have less than 2GB of RAM. That or more and it's amazing. End of story. Stereotypes? I'm tired of throwing out my argument against Vista, but I HAVE used it, multiple times. Confusing to use((especially after using Windows for years)), annoying in just about every aspect, and slow as hell. My mom's PC has it. It came with 512mb of RAM((WTF????))... We upgraded it half a gig of RAM at a time until 2 GBs..... No difference noted at all..... I'd love to upgrade my PC, but I can't afford it right now. As such, I probably won't be able to afford GTA IV, either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm still confused on Charger's question, I've got the same CPU (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHz) as him. Will this be fine or should I stick to xbox? I'm not buying another CPU. >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charger Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm gonna need to upgrade the Video Card that's for sure. How much does it cost to Upgrade? I currently have this: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Graphics with TurboCache with 128MB Also should I keep my Processor? AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHz Is that fine? I'll be upgrading my Ram to 4GB soon. I currently have 2GB. yeah unless u get 64bit vista or xp pro x64 , you will only be able to use 3.25gb And to have 64Bit I have to pay right? On my Hp Manual, it says the maximum ram is 4GB. Btw whats the difference between 64bit and 32bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortbus Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Hey guys, so should I order the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (this thingie-majig: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103211 ) or not? I've only got til the 31st before newegg stops selling it. All you tech dudes, answer me a couple questions, eh? 1. Will this thing fit into my motherboard (Refer to these, I think they'll tell you judging by my current one: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/B...ono666/CPUZ.jpg , http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/B...t=processor.png ) 2. Will I see any better performance in games such as: COD4, TF2, and Half Life 2 (and the episodes) (Also: not planning on getting uber results, hopefully those will come with a new GPU!) Now! Important: My front side bus kinda standard and is an AMD Hammer, with a "real clock" of 200 MHz, and an "effective clock" of 200MHz, and a "Hyper Transport Clock" of 1000 MHz. I know this will effect the speed of my processor, but by much? I am going to get a CPU before a GPU, because if I get a new GPU I'll have to get a new PSU aswell, that'll be around 250 bucks together, so I'm in the market for a CPU that is not mega expensive and doesn't suck big horse dongs. Thanks! Edited August 21, 2008 by Shortbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris82 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey guys, so should I order the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (this thingie-majig: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103211 ) or not? I've only got til the 31st before newegg stops selling it.All you tech dudes, answer me a couple questions, eh? 1. Will this thing fit into my motherboard (Refer to these, I think they'll tell you judging by my current one: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/B...ono666/CPUZ.jpg , http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/B...t=processor.png ) 2. Will I see any better performance in games such as: COD4, TF2, and Half Life 2 (and the episodes) (Also: not planning on getting uber results, hopefully those will come with a new GPU!) Now! Important: My front side bus kinda standard and is an AMD Hammer, with a "real clock" of 200 MHz, and an "effective clock" of 200MHz, and a "Hyper Transport Clock" of 1000 MHz. I know this will effect the speed of my processor, but by much? I am going to get a CPU before a GPU, because if I get a new GPU I'll have to get a new PSU aswell, that'll be around 250 bucks together, so I'm in the market for a CPU that is not mega expensive and doesn't suck big horse dongs. Thanks! Newegg will not stop selling it on the 31st, the combo deal currently active simply ends at that time. The combo deal is you buy the processor and if you buy whatever hard drive they want you to buy with it, you will pay less than if you had bought the CPU and hard drive separately. Yes you will see better performance in Source-based games, especially when Valve enables dual-core support. Currently, TF2 and all other "Orange Box" Source engine version games can utilize dual-core processors fully, increasing FPS massively, but it is known to crash the game under certain circumstances and therefore Valve has it disabled by default, regardless of how many cores your processor has. COD4 is more GPU-based but you should see gains nonetheless. According to that information, the CPU will work fine, just make sure you have thermal compound (Arctic Silver recommended) and a compatible heatsinkfan. If it doesn't fit, send it back. Read up on installing before you do it so you don't accidentally mess it up the first time. And your FSB is simply how fast your mobo transfers information, this is multiplied by your CPU speed multiplier to achieve your CPU speed and is a standard feature, sometimes the number changes if you overclock/change components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortbus Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 On newegg it says it comes with a heatsink and fan, is that not enough to keep the device cool? I found some artic stuff on newegg for 11 bucks (plus 3 day shipping) so I spose i'll get that aswell if it is needed. Thanks Chris, you've been very helpful with this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azn Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 What about... AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 2.59GHz 2047MB RAM GeForce 7500LE 128MB 1280 x 1024 screen resolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Don Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) A 7500LE isn't exactly what you would call a good card for these days, but yeah, you could probably run it on medium at least. You've got a good processor but I think it's bottlenecked by that GFX card. It doesn't have a lot of VRAM as well so that's bad. Is that a desktop or laptop you're using? Laptops are NOT good for gaming, unless you buy a game controller or keyboard and mouse for it and have decent enough specs. Edited August 21, 2008 by GTA Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLlamaLlama Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 On newegg it says it comes with a heatsink and fan, is that not enough to keep the device cool? I found some artic stuff on newegg for 11 bucks (plus 3 day shipping) so I spose I'll get that aswell if it is needed.Thanks Chris, you've been very helpful with this crap. I know the 5000+ does come with a fan, it will be fine, I've never had problems, but you really should get something that cools more effectively. If you end up NOT buying a separate CPU fan, note on the model of HSF that comes with the CPU, the thermal grease is already applied to the HSF, so o messy sachets / spillages, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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